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term='Advantage'/><category term='repentance'/><category term='Danvers Statement'/><category term='all'/><category term='Security'/><category term='preaching'/><category term='Rob Bell'/><category term='Politics'/><category term='regula Fidei'/><category term='DropBox'/><category term='Doctrine'/><category term='Humanism'/><category term='FIRE'/><category term='Postmillennialism'/><category term='Eternal Perspective'/><category term='beauty'/><category term='Middle East'/><category term='Liberalism'/><category term='Order of Decrees'/><category term='Maturity'/><category term='Islam'/><category term='Born Again'/><category term='Microsoft Live Suite'/><category term='Compatiblistic Freedom'/><category term='File synchronization'/><category term='Imaging'/><category term='Culture'/><category term='prosperity'/><category term='Assurace'/><category term='Pastors'/><category term='6 Day-Creationism'/><category term='Salvation'/><category term='Amazing Grace'/><category term='Joel Osteen'/><category term='natural religion'/><category term='Guidance'/><category term='Saftey'/><category term='Attributes'/><category term='Evangelism Explosion'/><category term='Reformation'/><category term='natural theology'/><category term='Adultery'/><category term='Paul'/><category term='Historical Theology'/><category term='Intentional Ministry'/><category term='Training'/><category term='Metrics'/><category term='Character'/><title type='text'>Treasuring Christ</title><subtitle type='html'>My desire to make the glory of Christ the treasure of my life thorugh developing disciplemaking communities worldwide. (www.disciplemaking.net)</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>647</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-538620703604550621</id><published>2012-01-30T18:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T18:38:19.956-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sermon Preparation'/><title type='text'>Good Conversation on Sermon Preparation</title><content type='html'>Here is a Great Discussion on Sermon Preparation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*|vimeo:&lt;a href="http://player.vimeo.com/video/19044695"&gt;http://player.vimeo.com/video/19044695&lt;/a&gt;|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="328" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/19044695?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;amp;color=ffffff" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="580"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sermon Prep from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/hbc"&gt;Harvest Bible Chapel&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-538620703604550621?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/538620703604550621/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2012/01/good-conversation-on-sermon-preparation.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/538620703604550621'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/538620703604550621'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2012/01/good-conversation-on-sermon-preparation.html' title='Good Conversation on Sermon Preparation'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>604 Middle River Rd, Middle River, MD 21220, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>39.3413551 -76.4487436</georss:point><georss:box>39.339820100000004 -76.4512111 39.3428901 -76.4462761</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6651083212606847831</id><published>2012-01-02T18:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-02T18:46:18.644-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Biblical Theology'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>More and more I believe that it is important that one develop a robust Biblical Theology that can inform one's systematic theology which&amp;nbsp;ultimately&amp;nbsp;informs ones expositions of&amp;nbsp;Scripture&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Listen to Mark Dever do this in one&amp;nbsp;exposition&amp;nbsp;from all of scripture:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="326" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14884769?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="580"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/14884769"&gt;9Marks at Southeastern 2010 - Biblical Theology: Session 1&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/sebts"&gt;Southeastern Seminary&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Preaching from Genesis through Revelation, Mark Dever unfolds the beautiful plan of God, evident in Scripture from beginning to end.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6651083212606847831?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6651083212606847831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-and-more-i-believe-that-it-is.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6651083212606847831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6651083212606847831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-and-more-i-believe-that-it-is.html' title=''/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><georss:featurename>602-610 Middle River Rd, Middle River, MD 21220, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>39.3415332 -76.4488149</georss:point><georss:box>39.3292527 -76.4685559 39.3538137 -76.4290739</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7656169522106086316</id><published>2011-12-03T07:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T07:50:51.071-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Law of Christ</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WspTQ956o&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*|YOUTUBE:p1WspTQ956o|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/p1WspTQ956o?fs=1" width="459"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7656169522106086316?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7656169522106086316/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/12/law-of-christ.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7656169522106086316'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7656169522106086316'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/12/law-of-christ.html' title='The Law of Christ'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/p1WspTQ956o/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5022859327979568846</id><published>2011-11-19T11:59:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-19T12:45:02.617-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Chrous vs. Stanza - Difference between C.S. Lewis and Rob Bell</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/cs-lewis.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/cs-lewis.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I appreciate Michael Patton's explanation here because I have always had problems with C.S. Lewis's theology while loving some of his books.  His denial of&amp;nbsp;substitutionary&amp;nbsp;atonement and the Biblical doctrine of inerrancy is a problem for me, but to hear Michael differentiate between what was C.S. Lewis' chorus from his stanzas is helpful for me.  while I don't know how he can emphasize the Gospel while denying some things like substitutionary atonement. &amp;nbsp;I complete believe that Scripture and Gospel mission is denied by C.S. Lewis' inclusivism or "wider-grace" view of salvation apart from the knowledge of Christ. &amp;nbsp;As a pastor these views would probably make me deny a person the&amp;nbsp;opportunity&amp;nbsp;to teach in a local church community. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Michael describes C.S. Lewis' aberrant theology in the following quote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;... he had some non-”evangelical” leanings. Besides not believing in inerrancy, he also believed in the theory of evolution, denied substitutionary atonement in favor of a “ransom to Satan” view, bordered on a Pelagian idea of human freedom, seemed to advocate baptismal regeneration, and regularly prayed for the dead. To top it all off, he held out hope for the destiny of the unevangelized, believing that Christ might save them outside of direct knowledge of him (inclusivism).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;Should we accept Michael's analysis that the difference between C.S. Lewis and Rob Bell is one of focus or emphasis in that one publicly focuses on defending&amp;nbsp;Christianity&amp;nbsp;and the other focuses on question Christianity. &amp;nbsp; He states that he&amp;nbsp;fully embraces and endorses the ministry of C.S. Lewis, but he does not endorse or embrace the ministry of Rob Bell. &amp;nbsp;Here is his reasoning for his support for C.S. Lewis and rejection of Rob Bell's work:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.irishcalvinist.com/files/2008/04/robbell.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://www.irishcalvinist.com/files/2008/04/robbell.gif" width="196" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;You see, while C.S. Lewis has a great deal of theological foibles, his ministry is defined by a defense of the essence of the Gospel. The essence of who Christ is and what he did are ardently defended by Lewis, saturating every page of his book. His purpose was clear: to defend the reality of God and the Lordship of Jesus Christ. . . . &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;However, with Rob Bell, the essence of who Christ is and what he did seem to be secondary. One has to look for them as they weed through his defense of non-traditional Christianity. Whereas Lewis’ ultimate purpose is to define and defend “mere” Christianity, Bell’s “mere” Christianity is but a footnote to a redefined Christianity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Again, should we make a distinction between a chorus and stanza as one of emphasis? &amp;nbsp;Here is his this framework in one paragraph that I am questioning:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Another way to put this is to say that in the ministry of C.S. Lewis the central truths of the Christian faith are the chorus of his song with an occasional problem in the stanza. However, with Bell, the chorus of his song is filled with challenges to tradition Christianity and if you listen really close to the stanza, you might get an occasional line of orthodoxy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I believe that one's theology and worldview is holistic, complete, or comprehensive and wrong beliefs will affect and change Biblical beliefs one holds to over time. &amp;nbsp;Of course God uses&amp;nbsp;people&amp;nbsp;with imperfect theology - God uses crooked sticks to draw a straight line. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The question is it better to have people read more orthodox or Biblical books. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We must remember that it takes discernment to read anything by a man or woman. &amp;nbsp;So for growth, I believe that this paradigm is helpful to see the core of anyone's worldview and theology. &amp;nbsp;I think it is generally helpful to read people who have a Gospel centered focus, but know that some of the Stanzas may be a point of departure from the truth of Gospel and Scriptural&amp;nbsp;emphasis&amp;nbsp;and truth. &amp;nbsp; In the end I would have people read C.S. Lewis (but not Rob Bell - except for a understanding of false teaching), and could teach from one of his books because I could frame it well, and it would help people understand the&amp;nbsp;central&amp;nbsp;tenants of Christianity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read Michael Patton's article at:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/11/why-do-we-love-c-s-lewis-and-hate-rob-bell/"&gt;Why Do We Love C.S. Lewis and Hate Rob Bell ? | Parchment and Pen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;What do you think? &amp;nbsp;How would you handle a book or someone who may have some problematic doctrines or beliefs that you consider unscriptural or unhelpful? &amp;nbsp; Where do you draw the line of what books, videos, etc. that you would use in training others in the Christian faith?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5022859327979568846?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/11/why-do-we-love-c-s-lewis-and-hate-rob-bell/' title='Chrous vs. Stanza - Difference between C.S. 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Lewis and Rob Bell'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><georss:featurename>610 Middle River Road, Middle River, MD 21220, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>39.3514892 -76.3753046</georss:point><georss:box>39.2532617 -76.5332331 39.4497167 -76.21737610000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6523657723198164779</id><published>2011-10-28T17:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T17:01:34.982-04:00</updated><title type='text'>John Frame - Five Views of Apologetics (Part 1 of 6)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjUiQt9U8Q&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #fefefe; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;*|YOUTUBE:nHjUiQt9U8Q|*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nHjUiQt9U8Q?fs=1" width="459"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6523657723198164779?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6523657723198164779/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/john-frame-five-views-of-apologetics.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6523657723198164779'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6523657723198164779'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/john-frame-five-views-of-apologetics.html' title='John Frame - Five Views of Apologetics (Part 1 of 6)'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/nHjUiQt9U8Q/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Laingsburg, MI 48848, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>42.8724891 -84.3625857</georss:point><georss:box>42.8710346 -84.36505319999999 42.873943600000004 -84.3601182</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5463846644149913092</id><published>2011-10-26T19:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-26T19:57:09.888-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Good Resources on Biblical Worship</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogs/worshipmatters/~3/YzHRtGDfOAU/"&gt;Good Resources on Biblical Worship&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jubileegoleta.com/SurveyofBiblicalWorship_800x600.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://www.jubileegoleta.com/SurveyofBiblicalWorship_800x600.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Over at his blog, &lt;a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/"&gt;Between Two Worlds&lt;/a&gt;, my friend Justin Taylor has posted links to a number of messages on worship that were given at &lt;a href="http://sbts.edu/"&gt;Southern Baptist Theological Seminary&lt;/a&gt; in Louisville, KY. Speakers include David Peterson, John Frame, Kevin Twit, Harold Best, Keith and Kristyn Getty, Michael Card, Jason Harms, and yours truly. Over 50 messages, all with links.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2009/03/lectures-on-worship.html"&gt;Check out the lectures here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5463846644149913092?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogs/worshipmatters/~3/YzHRtGDfOAU/' title='Good Resources on Biblical Worship'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5463846644149913092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/good-resources-on-biblical-worship.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5463846644149913092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5463846644149913092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/good-resources-on-biblical-worship.html' title='Good Resources on Biblical Worship'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-8402036490431912261</id><published>2011-10-25T14:40:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-26T14:41:18.102-04:00</updated><title type='text'>How to Think on Your Feet</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_P2slW8P-ylk/Rs9tcQjuAuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/GewO0yx2lKk/s1600/Feet-761353.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_P2slW8P-ylk/Rs9tcQjuAuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/GewO0yx2lKk/s1600/Feet-761353.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="188" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_P2slW8P-ylk/Rs9tcQjuAuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/GewO0yx2lKk/s200/Feet-761353.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;You will not be able to extemporize good thinking unless you have  been in the habit of thinking and feeding your mind with abundant and  nourishing food. Work hard at every available moment. Store your minds  very richly, and then, like merchants with crowded warehouses, you will  have goods ready for your customers, and having arranged your good  things upon the shelves of your mind, you will be able to hand them down  at any time without the laborious process of going to market, sorting,  folding, and preparing. . . .  Take it as a rule without exception, that to be able to overflow spontaneously you must be full.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/between2worlds/~3/_WPAECQx3W8/"&gt;How to Think on Your Feet&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cblibrary.net/pastoral_aids/spurgeon_lectures/lms_10.htm"&gt;Charles Spurgeon&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-8402036490431912261?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/between2worlds/~3/_WPAECQx3W8/' title='How to Think on Your Feet'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/8402036490431912261/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-think-on-your-feet.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8402036490431912261'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8402036490431912261'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-think-on-your-feet.html' title='How to Think on Your Feet'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp0.blogger.com/_P2slW8P-ylk/Rs9tcQjuAuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/GewO0yx2lKk/s72-c/Feet-761353.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3313119989284579381</id><published>2011-10-24T13:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-26T14:37:51.840-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Formula Problem</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxf-gx9MKXI/TqGPFWc7DdI/AAAAAAAABt0/sXCI6W5N7JY/s1600/POWER.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxf-gx9MKXI/TqGPFWc7DdI/AAAAAAAABt0/sXCI6W5N7JY/s200/POWER.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Here is a good article that demonstrate why&amp;nbsp;formulas&amp;nbsp;don't work in ministry. &amp;nbsp;It replaces form for function. It trades purpose for a vehicle which one is unable to adapt to ministry changes. &amp;nbsp;Here are some questions I think we all need to ponder:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;How have we left the Gospel when require a certain formula in our evangelism because it brings about some results that we want?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Is having a 'common language,' a 'common experience', a "common ritual,' necessary &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;or should it be a desired result of our evangelism?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Where is our tradition anti-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; line-height: 20px;"&gt;scriptural&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;or anti-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; line-height: 20px;"&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; font-family: inherit; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Do we trust in our ritualistic services rather than our Risen Savior? &amp;nbsp;If so, why?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b; font-family: inherit; line-height: 20px;"&gt;How do we diminish the power of the Cross when we trust in our own means in ministry?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #15222b;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Read more about this in the article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wadeburleson.org/2011/10/real-problem-in-sbc-is-formulatic.html"&gt;The Real Problem in the SBC is Formulaic Evangelism that is Cultish and Not Christian&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;by Wade Burleson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3313119989284579381?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3313119989284579381/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/formula-problem.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3313119989284579381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3313119989284579381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/formula-problem.html' title='The Formula Problem'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxf-gx9MKXI/TqGPFWc7DdI/AAAAAAAABt0/sXCI6W5N7JY/s72-c/POWER.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1559993992673485473</id><published>2011-10-22T13:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-26T13:06:57.061-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evaluation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Metrics'/><title type='text'>How to Evaluate a Church by Jeff Keeney</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gospelcentric.org/2011/06/27/how-to-evaluate-a-church/"&gt;How to Evaluate a Church&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;by Jeff Keeney of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Gospel Centric&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" height="153" src="http://gospelcentric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/marks-of-a-healthy-church-300x153.jpg" title="marks-of-a-healthy-church" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;With a church on just about every corner in many parts of the U. S.  and very few churches in other parts of the country, how do you know which church to attend? Why do people go to a specific church? Is it because of the building, or the programs or people? Is it because of correct doctrine, or solid gospel-centered preaching? Or maybe its just convenient? Maybe some of these questions seem silly, but what do people that are looking for a church to call home look for in a church? &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do you evaluate a church?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While there are some great resources that are now available to help people find a Bible preaching, teaching and believing church, a quick evaluation can frequently be made based on the philosophy of ministry. &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is a philosophy of ministry? This is the guiding principle that will influence and ultimately shape how the church – does church.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; It will guide the church in their preaching, teaching, worship, service and outreach – even the design of the building and parking lot.&lt;br /&gt;A comparison of foundational philosophies of ministry:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Attractional vs. Incarnational&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Attractional approaches to ministry are very popular today. Mega churches like Saddleback and its pastor – Rick Warren, and Willow Creek and its pastor – Bill Hybels, have exerted a tremendous influence on the Evangelical landscape in America. These churches, while differing in many ways, frequently take the basic approach that if we make our building, preaching and programs attractive – then people will come. The idea that drives this approach is that if you can just get the people in the doors, you can keep them there. However, this frequently leads to many problems – how do you preach and teach on sin, hell and the wrath of God? How do you practice church discipline? How do you handle church membership? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The attractional model leads to a slippery slope where the clear teaching and application of Scripture must be either ignored or modified in order for this model of church to continue and flourish.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;Many churches prefer to view things not from an attractional, but incarnational perspective. &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Instead of having the church focused on attracting people, many of which are unchurched or non-believers, this approach takes the ministry to the people.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; Like the Son of God condescending to leave His heavenly home and dwell among those whom He loved, this church wants to be known for their willingness to take the gospel from within the walls of their building to affect the lives of those they come into contact. The focus is on keeping Jesus high and lifted up, in the preaching, teaching, and worship, as well as in the application of members living gospel-centered lives in the community and work place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Width vs. Depth&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt;In polling various churches, the vast majority cite numeric growth as their driving evidence of success. Success is measured by quantifiable numbers of weekly attendance, small group attendance, Sunday school attendance, etc. Achievement is determined by the number of people with whom the message is shared. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Bible understands a primary purpose of the local church is to make disciples. Not mere attendees or even converts, but disciples – mature followers of Jesus Christ.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt; In the end, the “Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be [Christ’s] disciples.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;strong style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Marketing vs. Mission&lt;/strong&gt;Some churches exercise a marketing approach to ministry in which they hope to create a brand name to fit in a certain niche. Perhaps they are the church with good music, or a great drama team or a really excellent children’s ministry. Like the attractional approach, the hope is to market the church to bring people in. The problem that we see with this approach is that it is generally true that “what you win them with is what you keep them with.” If you win people with lights and smoke, then next year you need more lights and more smoke. You  are always forced to better your resources and marketing of those resources to distinguish yourself. &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The challenge is that the culture is always changing and when you market a specific segment or ministry, then you inevitably teach that your church is not for everyone.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The missional church hopes to win people by the gospel of Jesus Christ.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; If they can do this, then all they have to do to keep them is continue to preach the gospel — what they should be doing anyway. They hope to accomplish this through challenging their people to have a missional perspective as they live a gospel-centered life. So, the church will experience growth because of mission rather than marketing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong style="font-size: 24px;"&gt;Entitlement vs. Sacrifice&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A deep and pervasive sense of entitlement exists in much of the evangelical community. Those who have such an attitude, though they might not articulate it, assume that the church exists merely to meet one’s own felt needs. Therefore, the church that caters to such an ideology is forced to create thousands of different programs to meet those ever-changing desires.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Bible teaches not that the church exists to meet your needs, but rather that you exist to meet the needs of others.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; A heart of humility does not say “meet my needs,” but instead “do not cater to me. I am here to serve.” In the end, the greatest need, felt or not, is for the gospel. If we spend our time meeting peripheral issues, all we have done is dealt with symptoms without addressing the disease. Certainly we recognize the legitimacy of needs and are here to serve those in need, but an attitude of entitlement and true service are at odds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Theology influences philosophy which in turn determines practice. The hope and expectation is that the church’s practice lines up with those beliefs.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;- &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;thanks to the Village Church for many of these points&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Additional Resources:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/what-are-the-9marks/" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal;"&gt;IX Marks of Healthy Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/06/10/how-not-to-grow-a-healthy-church/"&gt;How Not to Grow a Healthy Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1559993992673485473?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://gospelcentric.org/2011/06/27/how-to-evaluate-a-church/' title='How to Evaluate a Church by Jeff Keeney'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1559993992673485473/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-evaluate-church-by-jeff-keeney.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1559993992673485473'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1559993992673485473'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-evaluate-church-by-jeff-keeney.html' title='How to Evaluate a Church by Jeff Keeney'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6758592014160597982</id><published>2011-10-04T13:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T13:32:10.469-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gospel Polemics, Part 1 – The Gospel Coalition Blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/09/20/gospel-polemics-part-1/"&gt;Gospel Polemics, Part 1 – The Gospel Coalition Blog&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Archibald Alexander, the first faculty member at Princeton Theological Seminary, was given the title “professor of didactic and polemic theology.” That seems a bit startling to us, because the term &lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;polemical&lt;/em&gt; in our day has an almost purely negative connotation. However, in the original plan of Princeton seminary, polemical theology was seen as a discipline separate from the positive exposition of systematic theology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/09/Tim-Keller-TGC11-150x150.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://oldlife.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/09/Tim-Keller-TGC11-150x150.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Alexander taught this as a distinct course that distinguished orthodoxy from all opposing views. If you look at the &lt;a href="http://digital.library.ptsem.edu/ead/collection/219" style="color: #2f8ad1; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank" title=""&gt;list of the subjects he covers&lt;/a&gt;, it is striking how much effort was given to help students discern and refute theological error. It is also striking that Alexander included in his course a lecture on “the evils of theological controversy.” In other words, he was concerned about two opposite errors—either refraining from polemics altogether or conducting it in an ungodly manner.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;George Gillespie was a Scottish minister, a member of the Westminster Assembly, and a prominent controversialist, contending for Presbyterianism as the biblical model for church government. And yet in the forward to &lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Presbyterian’s Armoury&lt;/em&gt; he wrote, “I have often and heartily wished that I might not be engaged into polemic writings, of which the world is too full already.” Again we see neither a shrinking from polemics nor any relish in it. Indeed, Alexander and Gillespie indicated that anyone who enjoys theological controversy, who makes it their main purpose and who feels virtuous as they do it, is in a bad spiritual state.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 style="font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 15px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Trouble in Your Soul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;D. M. Lloyd-Jones once had a memorable encounter with T. T. Shields, the pastor of Jarvis Street Baptist Church in Toronto, and a leading defender of orthodoxy against the growing liberal theology of the churches in Canada. Shields regularly attacked other church leaders in both his preaching and his writings. Lloyd-Jones shared virtually identical theological positions with Shields, but he believed “that the Baptist leader was sometimes too controversial, too denunciatory, and too censorious. Rather than helping young Christians by the strength of his polemics against liberal Protestants and Roman Catholics, Lloyd-Jones believed that Shields was losing the opportunity to influence those whose first need is positive teaching.” (I. Murray, &lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/David-Martyn-Lloyd-Jones-First-1899-1939/dp/0851513530/?tag=thegospcoal-20" style="color: #2f8ad1; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" title=""&gt;D. M. Lloyd-Jones: The First Forty Years&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/em&gt;p. 271). We should recall that Lloyd-Jones was quite willing to engage in polemics himself. He and John Stott clashed publicly over whether evangelicals should remain in the Church of England. (Lloyd-Jones said they should not.) And yet Lloyd-Jones opposed making polemics a major part of one’s ministry, and challenged Shields.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;In their meeting, Shields asked Lloyd-Jones if he enjoyed reading the works of another contemporary defender of orthodoxy. Lloyd-Jones said that he seldom read the author, because “he doesn’t help me spiritually.” Shields asked, “Surely you are helped by the way he makes mincemeat of the liberals?” Lloyd-Jones responded, “You can make mincemeat of the liberals and still be in trouble in your own soul.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/08/BoxingGloves.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://oldlife.org/files/2010/08/BoxingGloves.jpg" width="192" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;This touched off an extended debate. At one point Shields said that he was only doing what Paul did to Peter—contradicting and opposing him. Lloyd-Jones responded, “The effect of what Paul did was to &lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;win &lt;/em&gt;Peter round to his position and make him call him ‘our beloved brother Paul’ [&lt;a class="lbsBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/2%20Peter%203.15" reference="2 Peter 3.15" style="color: #2f8ad1; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" version="ESV"&gt;2 Peter 3:15&lt;/a&gt;]. Can you say the same about the people whom you attack?” For this Shields had no answer. The simple fact was that his polemics were really designed simply to stigmatize and marginalize his opponents, not persuade them. Suddenly the younger Lloyd-Jones appealed to Shields in a bold way. In the 1920s, Shields had expected an appointment to McMaster University, but theological liberals blocked it. Lloyd-Jones pointed out that from that time it had changed the tone of his ministry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 50px; padding-right: 50px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Dr. Shields, you used to be known as the Canadian Spurgeon, and you were . . . but over this McMaster University business in the early twenties you suddenly changed and became negative and denunciatory. I feel it has ruined your ministry. Why don’t you come back! Drop all this, preach the gospel to people positively and win them! (Murray, p.273)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;h3 style="font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 15px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Part of Every Curriculum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;On the lips of someone else, this could be seen as an appeal to “just preach Jesus” and not care about sound doctrine. But it is hard to accuse Lloyd-Jones of that. Rather, Lloyd-Jones was standing in the tradition of Gillespie and Alexander. Polemics is medicine, not food. Without medicine we will surely die—we can’t live without it. This is why polemical theology must be a required part of every theological curriculum. Yet we cannot live on medicine. If you engage in polemics with relish and joy—if polemics takes up a significant percentage or even a majority of your time and energy—it is like trying to live on medicine alone. It won’t work for the church or for you. That was Lloyd-Jones’s message.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;I fear that we are in a period in which many in the Christian church are dividing into extreme positions over the very conduct of polemics. On the one side there are seemingly more people than ever, especially through the internet, engaging in polemics, and yet it looks to me like there is a large number of younger Christians leaders who are reacting to this as if polemics is a pure evil. We want “conversation,” never argument or apologetics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;In the next post I’ll give some ideas for a way that I hope could help some avoid the polarization that is occurring.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Editor’s Note&lt;/strong&gt;: This is a cross-post from Tim Keller’s blog at &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://redeemercitytocity.com/profile/user_blogs.jsp?from=blog&amp;amp;REDEEMERUSER_param=40" style="color: #2f8ad1; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" title=""&gt;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Redeemer City to City&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="author-bio" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #eaede6; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic; line-height: 1.4; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 20px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 10px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #40464b; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Tim Keller is the senior pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church (PCA) in Manhattan, New York. He is also co-founder and vice president of The Gospel Coalition. For more resources by Tim Keller visit &lt;a href="http://rcpc.com/" style="color: #2f8ad1; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" title=""&gt;Redeemer City to City&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6758592014160597982?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6758592014160597982/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/gospel-polemics-part-1-gospel-coalition.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6758592014160597982'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6758592014160597982'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/10/gospel-polemics-part-1-gospel-coalition.html' title='Gospel Polemics, Part 1 – The Gospel Coalition Blog'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-9199374472494301960</id><published>2011-09-30T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-30T09:00:05.139-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SBC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southern Baptist'/><title type='text'>News Conference on Changing the Name of the Southern Baptist Convention</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;The audio from Southern Baptist Convention President Bryant Wright's news conference concerning a possible convention name change has been posted online.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/29436657"&gt;http://vimeo.com/29436657&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 20px;"&gt;*|VIMEO:29436657|*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="300" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/29436657?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/29436657"&gt;Bryant Wright news conference (mobile compatible)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/bpnews"&gt;Baptist Press&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; line-height: normal; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;Southern Baptist Convention President Bryant Wright held a press conference immediately after announcing the appointment of a presidential task force to study the prospect of changing the 166-year-old convention's name, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 20px;"&gt;saying the name's regional nature has become a barrier in some parts of the United States.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;After the meeting, Wright held a news conference that lasted about 20 minutes. The audio of that press conference is available at&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/29380529" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;http://vimeo.com/29380529&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;Suggestions regarding a name change can be posted at&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://pray4sbc.com/" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;http://Pray4SBC.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Other Articles to read on the Name Change Task Force of the SBC:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=36157"&gt;SBC name change study sparks lively debate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=36156"&gt;SBC president announces task force to study possible convention name change &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=36190"&gt;Patterson, Mohler discuss name change &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=1441926"&gt;SBC: Lots to consider in a name change&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/southern-baptists-start-debate-on-name-change-56082/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+delicious%2Fgqlf+%28Christian+Headlines+Top+Headlines%29"&gt;Southern Baptists Start Debate on Name Change &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Southern-Baptist-Convention-considers-name-change-2184146.php"&gt;Southern Baptist Convention considers name change&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-9199374472494301960?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/9199374472494301960/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/news-conference-on-changing-name-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/9199374472494301960'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/9199374472494301960'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/news-conference-on-changing-name-of.html' title='News Conference on Changing the Name of the Southern Baptist Convention'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3507835836171452141</id><published>2011-09-29T11:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-30T22:05:37.423-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity Explored'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Small Groups'/><title type='text'>Christianity Explored - Interview with Rico Tice</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img height="280" src="http://www.sizers.org/photos/rico/medium/0001.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I would encourge everyone to listen to this conversation with the Rico Tice, pastor and founder of Christianity Explored.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/28/ck-219-christianity-explored/"&gt;Christianity Explored - Interview with Rico Tice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: medium; margin-bottom: 25px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;Rico Tice is Associate Minister of Evangelism at &lt;a href="http://www.allsouls.org/Default.aspx" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #00aeee; font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;All Souls Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666;"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; Langham Place, London. He is also Founder of &lt;a href="http://www.christianityexplored.org/" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #00aeee; font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;Christianity Explored&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;the evangelistic introductory course to Christianity. This week on the Connected Kingdom podcast, Rico talks about the impact of John Stott upon his life and ministry, how his previous singleness made Christianity Explored possible, and how he keeps his own evangelistic fervor alive. US listeners can find Christianity Explored resources &lt;a href="http://www.thegoodbook.com/outreach/christianity-explored" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #00aeee; font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; 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outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;He&amp;nbsp;explains&amp;nbsp;the truth that "how people come to faith is now they stay" is important and how the small group method of evangelism is&amp;nbsp;beneficial&amp;nbsp;to the church today. &amp;nbsp;He talks about the necessity of theology and the focus on the Gospel in ministry. &amp;nbsp;The difference between Alpha and CE is that Alpha is a&amp;nbsp;helicopter&amp;nbsp;ride around the christian faith where CE is a walk through the Gospel of Mark. &amp;nbsp;CE take more time explaining grace and sin, judgement wrath, and hell. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 25px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: center; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thegoodbook.com/outreach/christianity-explored"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img height="286" src="http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0FrEG4ShExfmWdnpySXDJ_msSX3Dr_ST-bIGaCwrwqM1CbKyExQB4Yfr0" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 25px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3507835836171452141?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://headhearthand.org/blog/2011/09/28/ck-219-christianity-explored/' title='Christianity Explored - Interview with Rico Tice'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3507835836171452141/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/christianity-explored-interview-with.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3507835836171452141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3507835836171452141'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/christianity-explored-interview-with.html' title='Christianity Explored - Interview with Rico Tice'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5076978524250506466</id><published>2011-09-28T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T13:39:46.041-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Defining an Evangelical!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlbertMohlersBlog/~3/KsAxJsTmX3o/"&gt;What Makes Evangelicalism Evangelical?  A New Book Joins the Argument&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Mohler&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;delineates&amp;nbsp;that there is a new position what is Evangelicalism which in the end is liberalism by another name - Reformist or Revisionist Evangelicals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/files/2011/09/zondervanspectrumevangelicalism1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.albertmohler.com/files/2011/09/zondervanspectrumevangelicalism1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The evangelical movement in America emerged in the twentieth century as conservative Protestants sought to perpetuate an intentional continuity with biblical Christianity. While the roots of the movement can be traced through centuries prior to its emergence in twentieth century America, its organizational shape appeared mainly in the years after World War II. And, as anyone who considers the movement with a careful eye understands, evangelical definition has been a central preoccupation of the movement from the moment of its inception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word “evangelical” long predates the coalescence of the evangelical coalition of the last century. The word has been applied to Methodism in the eighteenth century, to nonconformists and low church Protestants in Great Britain in the nineteenth century, and to a host of groups, churches, and movements ever since. As early as the nineteenth century, frustration and confusion arose over the use and misuse of the term. The seventh Earl of Shaftesbury expressed the late-nineteenth century frustration when he declared, “I know what constituted an evangelical in former times . . . I have no clear notion what constitutes one now.”&lt;br /&gt;In this light, one is tempted to identify with the late Justice Potter Stewart, who during deliberations of the U. S. Supreme Court in a 1964 case concerning pornography, simply declared: “I know it when I see it.” &lt;a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/09/06/what-makes-evangelicalism-evangelical-a-new-book-joins-the-argument/"&gt;Keep Reading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Mohler looks at a definition of Evangelicalism in three senses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;historical,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;phenomenological, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;normative&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"&gt;In another &lt;a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/09/26/a-new-third-way-reformist-evangelicals-and-the-evangelical-future/"&gt;article &lt;/a&gt;Mohler defines some of the essential evangelical frame work in saying:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;But the founders of the evangelical movement sought only to defend the crucial doctrines of biblical inerrancy and infallibility, the plenary verbal inspiration of the Scriptures, the Nicaean and Chalcedonian consensus on Christology, the substitutionary character of Christ’s atonement, and the entire structure of the classical Christian tradition. They saw themselves as protecting this doctrinal inheritance from marginalization on the right and from accommodation on the left. They feared that fundamentalism was fighting over many of the wrong issues even as the liberals were tearing down the house.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;In this 2nd article - &lt;a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/09/26/a-new-third-way-reformist-evangelicals-and-the-evangelical-future/"&gt;A New Third Way? Reformist Evangelicals and the Evangelical future&lt;/a&gt; - Mohler describes these reformist Evangelicals (not to be confused in any way with Reformed Christianity) as those who are raising the questions of evangelical&amp;nbsp;identity&amp;nbsp;anew in a form of Protestant Liberalism or at least sub-evangelical. &amp;nbsp;Men such as Clark Pennock, Stanley Grentz, and Rodger Olson have and/or are calling for forming a new center for evangelical theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is helpful to always define our terms and I pray as I read this book (see above) it will be beneficial in defining Evangelism today! &amp;nbsp;It will be helpful to read directly from&amp;nbsp;opposing&amp;nbsp;viewpoints in this important debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5076978524250506466?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AlbertMohlersBlog/~3/KsAxJsTmX3o/' title='Defining an Evangelical!'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5076978524250506466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-makes-evangelicalism-evangelical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5076978524250506466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5076978524250506466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-makes-evangelicalism-evangelical.html' title='Defining an Evangelical!'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2282504296249576928</id><published>2011-09-27T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T11:19:36.329-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mp3'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipleship'/><title type='text'>Trellis &amp; Vine Talk 1 – not about small groups</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ashergriffin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/the-trellis-and-the-vine-222x180.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; display: inline !important; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://ashergriffin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/the-trellis-and-the-vine-222x180.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In this first episode of Trellis &amp;amp; Vine Talk. &amp;nbsp;Tony and Col discuss—amongst other things— why the ideas in The Trellis and the Vine are not about small groups and one-to-one. Listen to it here, or download the file to catch up on it later (MP3 | M4A). &lt;a href="http://www.matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/09/trellis-vine-talk-1-not-about-small-groups/"&gt;(more…)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBriefing/~3/UdIZZxab_O8/"&gt;Trellis &amp;amp; Vine Talk 1 – not about small groups&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2282504296249576928?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBriefing/~3/UdIZZxab_O8/' title='Trellis &amp; Vine Talk 1 – not about small groups'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2282504296249576928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/trellis-vine-talk-1-not-about-small.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2282504296249576928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2282504296249576928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/trellis-vine-talk-1-not-about-small.html' title='Trellis &amp; Vine Talk 1 – not about small groups'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1501128952167621605</id><published>2011-09-26T10:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T11:35:30.826-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Joy'/><title type='text'>An honest look at the Prusit of Joy</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;From:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://eternity.biz/news/john_piper_on_happiness_christianity_in_america_and_fasting_from_preaching/1109062339/"&gt;John Piper on happiness, Christianity in America and fasting from preaching&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img height="400" src="http://www.patentspostgrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/patent-reexamination-interview.gif" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here are 2 quotes of John's in this article that are especially encouraging to me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Cambria; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22px;"&gt;“Christians&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;care&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;about all suffering, especially eternal suffering”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;...[Christians] should not define happiness as the kind of breezy, light, superficial, smiley-faced, praise-God-anyhow, that gives the impression to others that they don’t know suffering, and that they are hypocritical and superficial. &amp;nbsp;That is the danger I fear when you ask it, should they be a happy person. &amp;nbsp;I would want to say they should be the person who looked like they maintain a sweet contented disposition when the stock market is high—and when it is low. When the hurricane is blowing the city away or hasn’t blown the city away. When their health is good, and when their health is bad. &amp;nbsp;The beautiful thing in the marketplace would be a person whose profound contentedness in God doesn’t spike and plummet with circumstances. That is what will testify to the rock-solid reality of God as their joy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The&amp;nbsp;interview&amp;nbsp;is very encouraging about the reality that everyone is still striving after the Goal of Christ. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1501128952167621605?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1501128952167621605/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/honest-look-at-prusit-of-joy.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1501128952167621605'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1501128952167621605'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/honest-look-at-prusit-of-joy.html' title='An honest look at the Prusit of Joy'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7591324023243822357</id><published>2011-09-25T09:58:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T10:03:30.049-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><title type='text'>Explaining Islam in a minute - COL. West</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;COL. West was just elected in November 2010 to Congress from Florida.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; During the elections he was part of a panel on how to handle or how to relate to Muslims.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; You will see his answer here explaining in just over a minute the truth about Islam.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Batang, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbaln3Uqfc&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*|YOUTUBE:qYbaln3Uqfc|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qYbaln3Uqfc?fs=1" width="459"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7591324023243822357?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7591324023243822357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/sura-95-says-slay-idolaters-wherever.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7591324023243822357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7591324023243822357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/sura-95-says-slay-idolaters-wherever.html' title='Explaining Islam in a minute - COL. West'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/qYbaln3Uqfc/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7726700855247653733</id><published>2011-09-24T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T11:32:37.994-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worldliness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='acceptance'/><title type='text'>The Real Scandle of Christian Mind</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/real-scandal-evangelical-mind"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;eJournal : The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind | 9Marks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/slippery-slope.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://defendingcontending.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/slippery-slope.jpg" width="166" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It is refreshing to see how what we believe affects our commitments and now&amp;nbsp;believe. &amp;nbsp;Carl Trueman sows how&amp;nbsp;slippery&amp;nbsp;Theology and the craving of worldly acceptance go hand in hand. &amp;nbsp;He states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #2e2e2e; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;We live in strange times. Hardly a year goes by without some conference on the future of the evangelical church somewhere having at least one speaker, or sometimes even a slate of speakers, who arguably represent precisely the kind of theology that has emptied pews, castrated preaching, and disemboweled commitment to the gospel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #2e2e2e; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;He goes on to give several reasons for this relationship between slippery theology and worldly acceptance, including that, &lt;i&gt;"If a movement, or church doesn't understand what it is, then in cannot make any real and satisfactory determination who who belongs and who doesn't."&lt;/i&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #2e2e2e; font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Geneva, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7726700855247653733?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7726700855247653733/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/real-scandle-of-christian-mind.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7726700855247653733'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7726700855247653733'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/real-scandle-of-christian-mind.html' title='The Real Scandle of Christian Mind'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2664272419009008090</id><published>2011-09-11T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T11:56:29.479-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipleship'/><title type='text'>Mark Dever</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;I cannot recomend highly enough the book: The Trellis and The Vine" if you are interested in seeing your church turned around into a true Disciplemaking Church, where people are mentoring others in their Christian life and service. &amp;nbsp;Please watch this video&amp;nbsp;recommendation&amp;nbsp;from Pastor Mark Dever of Capital Hill Baptist Church in Washington D.C.:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfg9z7jsbKw&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*|YOUTUBE:Yfg9z7jsbKw|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Yfg9z7jsbKw?fs=1" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2664272419009008090?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2664272419009008090/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/mark-dever.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2664272419009008090'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2664272419009008090'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/mark-dever.html' title='Mark Dever'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Yfg9z7jsbKw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7328382266744096104</id><published>2011-09-10T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-10T09:00:00.844-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gods Plan'/><title type='text'>God's Ultimate Motivation</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://fit-bodies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/motivation.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I really enjoyed meditating on &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/07/18/god-explains-his-ultimate-motivation/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+between2worlds+%28Between+Two+Worlds%29"&gt;God's ultimate&amp;nbsp;motivation&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;this morning from Justin Taylor's blog. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, 'Trebuchet MS', serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;For&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;my name’s sake&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;I defer my anger,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 50px; padding-right: 50px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;for&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;the sake of my praise&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;I restrain it for you,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;that I may not cut you off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 50px; padding-right: 50px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;For&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;my own sake&lt;/em&gt;, for&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;my own sake&lt;/em&gt;, I do it,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 50px; padding-right: 50px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;for how should&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;my name&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;be profaned?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;My glory&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;I will not give to another.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #40464b; margin-bottom: 13px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;—&lt;a class="lbsBibleRef lbsBibleRef" data-reference="Isaiah 48.9-11" data-version="ESV" href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Isaiah%2048.9-11" style="color: #961402; cursor: pointer; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank"&gt;Isaiah 48:9-11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7328382266744096104?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7328382266744096104/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/gods-ultimate-motivation.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7328382266744096104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7328382266744096104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/gods-ultimate-motivation.html' title='God&apos;s Ultimate Motivation'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-724241675656856484</id><published>2011-09-09T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-09T09:00:08.050-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gods Will'/><title type='text'>God's Will</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBlazingCenter/~3/cUpiJ_VPOHM/can-you-miss-gods-will-for-your-life.html"&gt;Can You Miss God’s Will For Your Life?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 25px;"&gt;Written by&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.theblazingcenter.com/" rel="external" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;" title="Visit Stephen Altrogge’s website"&gt;Stephen Altrogge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote from Article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;The Bible doesn’t tell us what we’re supposed to feel about our decisions. Instead, it tells us how to make biblical, God-honoring decisions. So if you have a big decision to make, don’t freak out. Instead, go to the Word, ask for wisdom, and get others involved.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-724241675656856484?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/724241675656856484/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-will.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/724241675656856484'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/724241675656856484'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-will.html' title='God&amp;#39;s Will'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5681060689085422460</id><published>2011-09-08T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-08T09:00:11.490-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching without notes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous Preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous'/><title type='text'>Speaking the Word Freely</title><content type='html'>I keep looking for ways to let the Holy Spirit lead in my preaching. &amp;nbsp;For me it is in the discipline of Extemporaneous Preaching. &amp;nbsp;here is a book that will help anyone along this journey. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.itascabooks.com/index.cfm?page=Detail&amp;amp;isbn=978-1-934690-43-7"&gt;Speaking the Word Freely&lt;/a&gt; by Jerry Larson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="Image not available" src="http://www.itascabooks.com/Images/Bookcovers/978-1-934690-43-7.jpg" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5681060689085422460?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5681060689085422460/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/speaking-word-freely.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5681060689085422460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5681060689085422460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/speaking-word-freely.html' title='Speaking the Word Freely'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2409415955549583646</id><published>2011-09-07T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T09:00:00.952-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hermeneutics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><title type='text'>New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Series by Michael Vlach</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://veritasdomain.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/new-testament-use-of-the-old-testament-series-by-michael-vlach/"&gt;New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Series by Michael Vlach&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;Dr. Michael Vlach of The Master’s Seminary, has a 20 part series on the New Testament use of the Old.  What follows are the links to them.  Read it and enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/373-nt-use-of-ot-part-1-introduction-to-the-issue"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 1: Introduction to the Issue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/374-nt-use-of-ot-part-2-seven-approaches-to-how-the-nt-uses-the-ot"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 2: Seven Approaches to How the NT Uses the OT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/375-nt-use-of-ot-part-3-resources-for-studying-nt-use-of-the-ot"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 3: Resources for Studying NT Use of the OT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/376-nt-use-of-ot-part-4-contextual-use-of-the-ot-by-the-nt-writers"&gt;NT use of OT Part 4: Contextual Use of the OT by the NT Writers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/377-nt-use-of-ot-part-5-categories-of-nt-usage-of-the-ot"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 5: Categories of NT Usage of the OT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/378-nt-use-of-ot-part-6-literal-prophetic-fulfillment"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 6: Literal Prophetic Fulfillment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/379-nt-use-of-ot-part-7-literal-prophetic-fulfillment-2"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 7: Literal Prophetic Fulfillment (2)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/380-nt-use-of-ot-part-8-literal-application-of-timeless-moral-or-theological-point"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 8: Literal Application of Timeless Moral or Theological Point&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/381-nt-use-of-ot-part-9-literal-restatement-of-an-ot-passage-with-intensification-or-alteration"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 9: Literal Restatement of an OT Passage with Intensification or Alteration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/382-nt-use-of-ot-part-10-affirmation-of-an-old-testament-prophetic-text-whose-fulfillment-is-still-future"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 10: Affirmation of an Old Testament Prophetic Text Whose Fulfillment Is Still Future&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/383-nt-use-of-ot-part-11-some-observations-concerning-matthews-purposes-in-matt-1-2"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 11: Some Observations Concerning Matthew’s Purposes in Matt 1–2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/385-nt-use-of-ot-part-12-matt-122-23-and-divine-correspondence-between-israel-and-jesus"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 12: Matt 1:22-23 and Divine Correspondence between Israel and Jesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/386-nt-use-of-ot-part-13-matt-215hos-111-and-divine-correspondence-between-israel-and-jesus"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 13: Matt 2:15/Hos 11:1 and Divine Correspondence between Israel and Jesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/387-nt-use-of-ot-part-14-matt-217-18jer-3115-and-divine-correspondence-between-israel-and-jesus"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 14: Matt 2:17-18/Jer 31:15 and Divine Correspondence between Israel and Jesus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/388-nt-use-of-ot-part-15-matt-223-and-summation-of-an-ot-truth-or-principle"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 15: Matt 2:23 and Summation of an OT Truth or Principle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/390-nt-use-of-ot-part-16-acts-225-28psalm-168-11-and-the-resurrection-of-the-christ"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 16: Acts 2:25-28/Psalm 16:8-11 and the Resurrection of the Christ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/391-nt-use-of-ot-part-17-acts-233-35psalm-1101-and-literal-prophetic-fulfillment"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 17: Acts 2:33-35/Psalm 110:1 and Literal Prophetic Fulfillment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/392-nt-use-of-ot-part-18-psalm-1101-and-contextual-fulfillment"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 18: Psalm 110:1 and Contextual Fulfillment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/393-nt-use-of-ot-part-19-psalm-1104-and-contextual-fulfillment"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 19: Psalm 110:4 and Contextual Fulfillment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theologicalstudies.org/blog/396-nt-use-of-ot-part-20-acts-1347-and-isa-496"&gt;NT Use of OT Part 20: Acts 13:47 and Isa 49:6 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2409415955549583646?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://veritasdomain.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/new-testament-use-of-the-old-testament-series-by-michael-vlach/' title='New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Series by Michael Vlach'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2409415955549583646/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-testament-use-of-old-testament.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2409415955549583646'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2409415955549583646'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-testament-use-of-old-testament.html' title='New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Series by Michael Vlach'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2679701702929373195</id><published>2011-09-06T09:00:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-06T16:51:30.047-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cloud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ebulletin'/><title type='text'>Make eBulletins for your Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;*|vimeo:27791414|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="440" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27791414?byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/27791414"&gt;demo video&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/pixelark"&gt;PixelArk&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2679701702929373195?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2679701702929373195/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/make-ebulletins-for-your-church.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2679701702929373195'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2679701702929373195'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/make-ebulletins-for-your-church.html' title='Make eBulletins for your Church'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-321216684403612337</id><published>2011-09-06T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-02T19:27:07.972-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Memory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Memorize and Meditate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible Memory'/><title type='text'>"Memorize Scripture" John Piper Sermon Jam</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;This video is such a great encouragement to memorize Scripture and why is is sooooooo necessary.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7zPrKo4Tsg"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7zPrKo4Tsg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*|YOUTUBE:-7zPrKo4Tsg|*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-7zPrKo4Tsg?fs=1" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-321216684403612337?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/321216684403612337/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/memorize-scripture-john-piper-sermon.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/321216684403612337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/321216684403612337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/memorize-scripture-john-piper-sermon.html' title='&quot;Memorize Scripture&quot; John Piper Sermon Jam'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/-7zPrKo4Tsg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6273785334671939965</id><published>2011-09-05T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-05T09:00:08.486-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Covenant Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NCT'/><title type='text'>New Covenant Theology Distinctives by Gary Long, www.SoloChristo.com</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;span class="BodyStyle" style="color: black; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="TitleStyle" style="color: #887050; font-family: 'Lucida Handwriting', Gorgia, 'Comic Sans MS', Arial; font-size: 17pt;"&gt;New Covenant Theology Distinctives&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="AuthorStyle" style="color: black; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 8pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;by Gary Long&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="BodyStyle" style="color: black; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span class="AuthorStyle" style="color: black; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;a href="http://solochristo.com/theology/nct/GaryLong_NewCovenantTheologyDistinctives.html"&gt;New Covenant Theology Distinctives by Gary Long, www.SoloChristo.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="BodyStyle" style="color: black; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;WHAT IS NCT AND WHAT ARE SOME OF ITS MAJOR CHARACTERISTICS? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A. Presuppositions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Existence of God is a first truth, “for he who comes to God must believe that He is” (Heb. 11:6).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Scriptures are inspired, infallible, relevant, authoritative revelation from the triune God; therefore, the Bible as His written “word is truth” (John 17:17).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The final revelation of God the Father is in the eternal Son of God (Heb. 1:2), Jesus Christ, who is the Word of God, full of grace and truth (John 1:1, 14, 17); therefore, no one can “know the Father, except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him (Matt. 11:27).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;There is no authentic leading of the Holy Spirit that is not contextually wedded to the words of the Bible (Acts 17:11; Rom. 8:14; I Cor. 2:10-11; I Thess. 1:5; II Tim. 2:15; see II Pet. 1:20-21).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;B. The Need&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;There is a need for New Covenant Theology (NCT) in proclaiming the gospel of Christ. Its principles of interpretation (its hermeneutic) are as old as the New Testament (NT) itself. The way it interprets Scripture is based upon how Christ and the writers of the NT understand and use the Old Testament Scriptures in explaining the coming to pass of God’s will on earth (Matthew 6:10). But as a theological system in America it is a recent development having different explanations. The time has come for those who hold to the need for NCT to unify and explain what it is. It is in agreement with much that is taught in the theological system of Reformed or Covenant Theology (CT), especially with its teaching on the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible, the doctrine of God and creation, the doctrine of man, and the doctrine of the person and work of Christ. It agrees with much that is taught in the theological system of Dispensational Theology (DT), especially its teaching on the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible, the doctrine of God and creation, the person of Christ, and the understanding of Pentecost as the formation of the Church as the body of Christ. However, there are significant differences with the theological systems of both CT and DT to warrant the development of NCT as a distinct theological system. The following provides a brief description and listing of some of the major characteristics of NCT as understood by this writer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;C. NCT Described&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;New Covenant Theology is a developing system of theology that provides a more biblical way to interpret the Scriptures by questioning key theological presuppositions which undergird the hermeneutics (principles of interpretation) of CT and DT. NCT is based upon a redemptive history approach to understanding the fulfillment of God’s eternal kingdom purpose on earth. Its principles of interpretation are based upon a biblical theology that stresses the theology of the Bible itself, especially upon the NT understanding of the OT. NCT challenges the basic theological presuppositions of the one Covenant of Grace system of Covenant Theology, including its understanding of the “moral law” of God and the nature of the Church. NCT also challenges the two redemptive purposes of Dispensational Theology, one for the Church and one for Israel, and it challenges some of DT’s presuppositions and literal hermeneutic for understanding key elements of Bible prophecy. The driving motive of NCT is “back to the Bible.” NCT emphasizes the inductive study of the Bible. A major objective of NCT is that its hermeneutic will help bring doctrinal unity in this sin-wrecked world by breaking down the middle walls of doctrinal partition that exist within the theological systems of Covenant Theology and Dispensational Theology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;D. NCT Characteristics&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The following lists some of the major NCT characteristics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;NCT teaches that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The discernment of the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential for accurately handling the Word of God (I Cor. 2:13-14; II Tim. 2:15) and that the most important principle of interpretation is “contextual exegesis.” Contextual biblical exegesis demands grammatical/historical/theological principles of interpretation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The imputation of Adam’s first sin to all mankind (Rom. 5:12d, 18a-19a), the elects’ sins to Christ (II Cor. 5:21), and Christ’s righteousness to the elect (Rom. 5:18b-19b) are vital for the Christian faith. Without the doctrine of imputation the whole doctrine of the substitutionary atonement and justification by faith alone in Christ alone are undermined (Rom. 5:12-19).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;God’s plan of salvation is revealed and administered through the unfolding of biblical covenants in the flow of redemptive history, not through the theologically deduced system of CT’s Covenant of Works/Covenant of Grace/Covenant of Redemption schema.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Law of God is both absolute and covenantal (Matt. 5:17-20). God’s “absolute law” is innate, written on the heart of man created in the image of God. It is God’s unchanging standard of righteousness. God’s “covenantal law,” however, is written and changeable according to the covenant being administered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The love of God and the love of neighbor are the two greatest commandments (Matt. 22:36-40) upon which the whole Law and the Prophets hang. This means that the Ten Commandments, the Decalogue, hang upon these two greatest commandments, not the reverse as CT teaches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;6.      The Ten Commandments are a covenantal outworking of the two greatest commandments in redemptive history not the reverse. They were given through the hand of Moses to the nation of Israel first at Mount Sinai (Exod. 20).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Fourth Commandment, the Sabbath commandment, being the sign of the Mosaic Covenant (Exod. 31:15-17), is not a creation ordinance as taught by CT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Ten Commandments are not eternal moral law first written in the heart of man at creation and forever binding upon all mankind as CT teaches in its confessions of faith e.g., the Westminster Confession of Faith (1647-1649) and the Second London Baptist Confession (1689). In fact, the term “moral law” does not occur in the Bible. Although under any given covenantal administration, man is morally obligated to obey all of God’s commandments, yet the Bible does not separate God’s law into three parts: moral, ceremonial and civil. Historically, this threefold separation was not substantially taught until the time of Thomas Aquinas in the 13 th century and in the 16 th century by Calvin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Decalogue is not “transcovenantal” and, therefore, does not function outside the Old Covenant as a unit as much of CT teaches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"&gt;Christ came not to destroy the OT Scriptures but to fulfill them, which includes the Decalogue. The New Covenant law is called the law of Christ which is distinguished from Mosaic law and from the Gentiles who do not have a written revelation of God’s law (I Cor. 9:20-21).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The law of Christ is not to be equated with the Decalogue. Although the law of Christ, the law of the NC people of God, is related to the Decalogue in that it incorporates nine of the Ten Commandments. The law of Christ is a better law than the law of Moses (Matt. 5:21-48; Heb. 7:19) in the sense that (1) it is a higher revelation of the righteousness of God (Matt: 5:20); (2) it is based upon a higher standard of love (Matt. 5:44); and, (3) Christ’s inauguration of the New Covenant brings in things that are qualitatively “newer,” expressed in developing the theological significance of such basic concepts as new wineskins, new teaching, new commandment, new creation, new man, new name, new song, new Jerusalem and all things new (Rev. 21:5).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The OC Sabbath commandment is typologically fulfilled by Christ for the people of God who rest in Him by faith (Heb. 4:9-10).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;New Covenant believers are in-lawed to Christ; they are not under the OC law of Moses but under the grace of the NC (Rom. 6:14). NCT does not equate the law of Christ with the Decalogue as do many holding to CT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The indwelling Holy Spirit is the norm for Christian living. NCT does not teach that the Ten Commandments are the only objective standard for evaluating the Christian life. Rather, NCT emphasizes that it is the Spirit who enables the Christian to have a godly walk (Rom. 8:4; Gal. 5:16-18).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;Christ merited righteousness for the elect only and that it is imputed to them based upon His total obedience to the will of the Father in His life and death (Matt. 3:15; Rom. 5:19).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The Church, which is the body of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23; Col. 1:18), was first formed in history when the Spirit was poured out at Pentecost not in past history under the OC. Most holding to CT see the Church existing in the OT before Pentecost. NCT does not. Contrary to DT, NCT sees only one redemptive purpose for the people of God, which is the Church, the good olive tree (Rom. 11), the body of Christ (Eph. 2:13-22; 3:1-12).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The ordinance of water baptism is the pledge of membership in the New Covenant for believers alone and the sign of the New Covenant is not baptism, rather the sign is the cup, which memorializes the New Covenant in Christ’s blood (Luke 22:20; I Cor. 11:25).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The “now-not yet” principle of interpretation is essential to understand the teaching of the NT. The Christian experiences the commencement of “every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ” (Eph. 1:3), yet he stills awaits the consummation of these blessings at Christ’s return. The End has come! The End has not come! The whole theology of the NT is qualified by this tension: between the “already” or “now” and the “not yet” (I John 3:2).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The “recapitulation” principle is essential to understand the NT prophetic Scriptures (Matt. 24:4-14 and 24:15-31; Rev. 11:15—12).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;The “blessed hope” will occur when Christ returns (Titus 2:13) to earth bodily and visibly (Acts 1:11) at the Second Advent to resurrect, judge and consign the saved to heaven and the lost to a Christless eternity (John 5:28-29).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;__________&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px;"&gt;Gary D. Long is the Faculty President of Providence Theological Institute located in Belton, Texas. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6273785334671939965?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://solochristo.com/theology/nct/GaryLong_NewCovenantTheologyDistinctives.html' title='New Covenant Theology Distinctives by Gary Long, www.SoloChristo.com'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6273785334671939965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-covenant-theology-distinctives-by.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6273785334671939965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6273785334671939965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-covenant-theology-distinctives-by.html' title='New Covenant Theology Distinctives by Gary Long, www.SoloChristo.com'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-840934787521553872</id><published>2011-09-04T09:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-06T16:37:44.341-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Providence'/><title type='text'>The Providence of God: Ten-Part Course from John Piper</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DGBlog/~3/5gfq2i9XSCM/the-providence-of-god-ten-part-course-from-john-piper"&gt;The Providence of God: Ten-Part Course from John Piper&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img align="center" alt="Original" height="72" src="http://dwynrhh6bluza.cloudfront.net/photos/images/3624/original.jpeg?1314808370" vspace="15" width="320" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Providence" is not a word we commonly use. &lt;br /&gt;This is true today and it was true in 1995 when John Piper introduced a ten-part course at Bethlehem Baptist Church on "The Providence of God." &lt;br /&gt;The ten messages were recorded on cassettes that we have recently discovered and converted to MP3s. Apart from some delays in pressing the "Record" button back in '95, the entire audio has been pieced together and is now available for free download.&lt;br /&gt;Stream or download the  course, The Providence of God:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oBS04tqkG_s/TdCeowfxwfI/AAAAAAAAAB8/C9keJN5EImw/s1600/prayingguy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oBS04tqkG_s/TdCeowfxwfI/AAAAAAAAAB8/C9keJN5EImw/s1600/prayingguy.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-1?md5=cbedea5edda8ced30234b43c1aae05b6"&gt;Part 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-2?md5=a9d6bc7a12d6ed14e6c7a016464bf5d4"&gt;Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-3?md5=407d7e15cd249926f55b6e88e09a3e29"&gt;Part 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-4?md5=f3c8a37dab70bb8834d900057ae8e3ee"&gt;Part 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-5?md5=9b4768986f16be0524014d99347b13f9"&gt;Part 5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-6?md5=266a76ff1ca5e3067dcaabb27cd7ec57"&gt;Part 6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-7?md5=7d1339540516a6b98af9a972c25f6fb9"&gt;Part 7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-8--5?md5=53fc67224113a064113081c417814805"&gt;Part 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-9?md5=cbfc007ef269c680218bbde66e13dbfb"&gt;Part 9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/the-providence-of-god-part-10--5?md5=0f2b2d0c4e1e4130275cceb769e7eadc"&gt;Part 10&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-providence-of-god-ten-part-course-from-john-piper/ad_link"&gt;&lt;img alt="1px_trans" src="http://cdn.desiringgod.org/images/1px_trans.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img height="1" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DGBlog/~4/5gfq2i9XSCM" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/providence-of-god-ten-part-course-from.html' title='The Providence of God: Ten-Part Course from John Piper'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oBS04tqkG_s/TdCeowfxwfI/AAAAAAAAAB8/C9keJN5EImw/s72-c/prayingguy.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.878265999999996 -117.6674975 33.881562 -117.6625625</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7590550069305089699</id><published>2011-09-03T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-03T09:00:00.498-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eternal Punishment'/><title type='text'>Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment</title><content type='html'>Here are some edifying sermons on Hell and our concept of grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/between2worlds/~3/0EaBrtZi4CI/"&gt;Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;These 1990 messages from Sinclair Ferguson are sobering and stirring, and still worth listening to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/conference-messages/universalism-and-the-reality-of-eternal-punishment-contemporary-preaching"&gt;Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment: Contemporary Preaching&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/conference-messages/universalism-and-the-reality-of-eternal-punishment-the-justice-and-mercy-of-god"&gt;Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment: The Justice and Mercy of God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/conference-messages/universalism-and-the-reality-of-eternal-punishment-panel-discussion"&gt;Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment, Panel Discussion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;I also recommend Ferguson’s chapter, “Pastoral Theology: The Preacher and Hell” from &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310240417/bettwowor-20"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hell Under Fire&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, ed. Peterson and Morgan (Zondervan, 2004), 220-237. Here is an excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . We have the words of Anselm of Canterbury to Boso: “You have not yet considered how great the weight of sin is.” In fact, here lies the nub of the problem: A truncated view of who God is, combined with a minimalist view of what we have become in our sinfulness, inevitably leads to a myopic view of the Last Judgment. Until I sense how great, glorious, and holy God is and therefore how horrific my sins is, the absolute justice of God’s condemnation will remain a mystery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The implication of this for our ministry is important. For it becomes clear, therefore, that narrowly focused preaching on the theme of hell is inadequate. Rather, it must be done in tandem with preaching on the character of God, his loving creation of man, the radical character of the Fall, and consequent nature of sin. Then the judgment that leads to hell can be expounded coherently, rightly, and ultimately even compassionately. (pp. 225-226)&lt;/blockquote&gt;And note this one as well:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;When Robert M’Cheyne met his dearest friend Andrew Bonar one Monday and inquired what Bonar had preached on the previous day, only to receive the answer “Hell,” he asked: “Did you preach it with tears?” That we cannot do until we have come to recognize our own great need of grace to save us from the wrath to come, the terrible nature of that judgment, the provision that God has made for us in Christ, and the calling he has given us to take the gospel to every creature in the name of the One who did not come into the world to condemn it but to save it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we are called to preach as his representatives: with biblical balanced, with a Christocentric focus, with the humility of those who realize their own need of grace before the judgment seat of Christ, with a willingness to suffer in the light of the coming glory, with love and compassion in our hearts, and in a way that commends and adorns the doctrine of God our Savior. (p. 234)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/03/07/universalism-and-the-reality-of-eternal-punishment/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7590550069305089699?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/between2worlds/~3/0EaBrtZi4CI/' title='Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7590550069305089699/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/universalism-and-reality-of-eternal.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='multiplication'/><title type='text'>Train the Untrained to Reach the Unreached</title><content type='html'>here is why multiplication trough training is essential for missions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/train-the-untrained-to-reach-the-unreached#.Tlg1Nr1piWc.blogger"&gt;Train the Untrained to Reach the Unreached&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://davidmarkham.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/help_train1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6651746889573479619?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/train-the-untrained-to-reach-the-unreached#.Tlg1Nr1piWc.blogger' title='Train the Untrained to Reach the Unreached'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6651746889573479619/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/train-untrained-to-reach-unreached.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6651746889573479619'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6651746889573479619'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/09/train-untrained-to-reach-unreached.html' title='Train the Untrained to Reach the Unreached'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4665604654663604957</id><published>2011-08-31T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-31T09:00:09.728-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christ-Centered'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Expository Preaching'/><title type='text'>The Ultimate Aim of All Christian Preaching</title><content type='html'>I love this because it is missing in much of our churches today. &amp;nbsp;The church is anemic today because we don't do gospel preaching. &amp;nbsp;Christ is the focus of our preaching and the point of our affection. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gospelcentric.org/2011/08/10/the-ultimate-aim-of-all-christian-preaching/"&gt;The Ultimate Aim of All Christian Preaching&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; by John Piper&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img alt="" height="400" src="http://gospelcentric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sermon-topic-jesus.jpg" title="sermon-topic-jesus" width="280" /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Or: How Is All&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Preaching&amp;nbsp;Gospel Preaching?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Or: How Is All Preaching the&amp;nbsp;Proclamation&amp;nbsp;of Christ Crucified?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ten Theses:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. Whatever lasting good God ever does or ever did or ever will do for any individual person, he does and did and will do because of his free, utterly undeserved grace.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it? (1 Corinthians 4:7).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy (Romans 9:15–16).&lt;/div&gt;We have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one (Romans 3:9–10).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you, O LORD, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness, that you may be feared (Psalms 130:3–4).&lt;br /&gt;But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved (Ephesians 2:4–5).&lt;br /&gt;God saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace,which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began (2 Timothy 1:9).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. This free grace, that gives every lasting good to people, can benefit us justly only because of Jesus’ wrath-absorbing, righteousness-providing, sin-atoning, guilt removing, substitutionary death for us.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 6:23).&lt;br /&gt;All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus (Romans 3:23–26).&lt;br /&gt;He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? (Romans 8:32).&lt;br /&gt;All the promises of God find their Yes in him (2 Corinthians 1:20).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Without this kind of atoning death of Christ, God’s grace would not save us, but only increase our condemnation because of the hardness of our hearts.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed (Romans 2:4–5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. But by the blood of Christ, God really purchased us for himself and secured not only every lasting good that we receive, but also the gift of repentance and faith through which we receive everything else.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body (1 Corinthians 6:19–20).&lt;br /&gt;You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men (1 Corinthians 7:23).&lt;br /&gt;Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood (Acts 20:28).&lt;br /&gt;It has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake (Philippians 1:29).&lt;br /&gt;By grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast (Ephesians 2:8–9).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Therefore every sermon that holds out any lasting good to any person (as every Christian sermon must) should be based on, and interwoven with, the gospel of the living Christ’s substitutionary death.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified (1 Corinthians 2:2).&lt;br /&gt;Far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world (Galatians 6:14). &lt;br /&gt;I take Paul to mean not that he has joy in nothing but the cross, but that he has joy in anything only because of the cross, and he wants to make that clear.&lt;br /&gt;But for the Christian, all other boasting should also be a boasting in the cross. All exultation in anything else should be exultation in the cross. Because, for redeemed sinners, every good thing—indeed every bad thing that God turns for good—was obtained for us by the cross of Christ. Apart from the death of Christ, sinners get nothing but judgment. Apart from the cross of Christ, there is only condemnation. Therefore everything that you enjoy in Christ—as a Christian, as a person who trusts Christ—is owing to the death of Christ. And all your rejoicing in all things should therefore be a rejoicing in the cross where all your blessings were purchased for you at the cost of the death of the Son of God, Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. This gospel basis and gospel interweaving of our sermons should be clear enough so that gospel-deniers (like Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, legalists, libertines, etc) will not approve of our sermons. There should be enough of Christ and of his cross that those who deny the gospel don’t approve the sermon.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt; 7. This gospel basis and gospel interweaving of our sermons should be clear enough so that the living Jesus will be honored as the ground and goal of the message because of his grace-securing sacrifice for us.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt; 8. This gospel basis and gospel interweaving of our sermons should be clear enough so that the imperative that flows from the message is, first and foremost, faith in the blood-bought reality that God is 100% for us in Christ (that is, faith in the justifying work of Christ), and then, secondly, the obedience that comes from this faith (that is, the fruit of the sanctifying work of the Spirit).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt; 9. In this sense then every sermon proclaims Christ. His atoning work is the ground of all it offers. His glory is the ultimate goal of all it aims to achieve. And the written revelation of Christ’s unfolding ways in history (that is, Scripture) is the only authoritative source from which we bring this work and ground and this glory to light (expository exultation).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the things concerning himself&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (Luke 24:27).&lt;br /&gt;To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (Ephesians 3:8).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Him we proclaim&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ (Colossians 1:28).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10. Thus with Christ-crucified as the ground and goal and matter of every sermon (and all of life) the ultimate aim of God in creation is advanced: the praise of the glory of God’s grace, through the joy of his people in him.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved (Ephesians 1:4–6).&lt;br /&gt;The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God (2 Corinthians 4:4).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- from the Pastor as Prophet by John Piper&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4665604654663604957?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://gospelcentric.org/2011/08/10/the-ultimate-aim-of-all-christian-preaching/' title='The Ultimate Aim of All Christian Preaching'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4665604654663604957/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/ultimate-aim-of-all-christian-preaching.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4665604654663604957'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4665604654663604957'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/ultimate-aim-of-all-christian-preaching.html' title='The Ultimate Aim of All Christian Preaching'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6505421469697074173</id><published>2011-08-30T09:00:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-02T14:05:20.533-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible Memory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scripture Memory'/><title type='text'>Use Memverse and Memorize the Scripture</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img height="107" src="http://emekarajis.org/images/full/memverse-a.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.memverse.com/?referrer=gleatherman"&gt;Memverse.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Have you&amp;nbsp;experienced the joy&amp;nbsp;of memorizing&amp;nbsp;Scripture? 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This means there is no software to&amp;nbsp;download, no flashcards to carry around, and no need to keep an organized list of your&amp;nbsp;verses. &lt;a href="http://www.memverse.com/?referrer=gleatherman"&gt;Memverse&lt;/a&gt; takes care of this for you, and allows you to spend less time looking for&amp;nbsp;lost note cards, and more time in God’s Word! Some other cool features include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Church, State, Individual, and Country leaderboards for those who enjoy a little friendly&amp;nbsp;competition&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Popular Verses section so you can see what your friends are memorizing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reports that allow you to track your progress over weeks, months, and even years&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Accuracy tests to see how well you really know your verses, and more!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether you’re just starting out or have been memorizing faithfully for many years now,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.memverse.com/?referrer=gleatherman"&gt;Memverse.com&lt;/a&gt; is the site for you. It just takes a few minutes to sign up, but the benefits&amp;nbsp;last a lifetime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you sign up, please join my &lt;i&gt;Disciplemaking Ministries&lt;/i&gt; group at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.memverse.com/?referrer=gleatherman"&gt;http://www.memverse.com/?referrer=gleatherman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;so we can encourage each other in this discipline. &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6505421469697074173?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6505421469697074173/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/use-memverse-and-memorize-scripture.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6505421469697074173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6505421469697074173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/use-memverse-and-memorize-scripture.html' title='Use Memverse and Memorize the Scripture'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2756372593343094055</id><published>2011-08-29T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-29T09:00:17.104-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worship'/><title type='text'>The Priority of the Word of God in Worship</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;Here are several quotes that show how revelation of God's word must come first in our worship. &amp;nbsp;Worship then becomes a correct passionate response to biblical truth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“True worship does not come from people&amp;nbsp;whose feelings are like air ferns with no root in&amp;nbsp;the solid ground of biblical doctrine. The only&amp;nbsp;affections that honor God are those rooted in the&amp;nbsp;rock of biblical truth. . . . True worship comes&amp;nbsp;from people who are deeply emotional and who&amp;nbsp;love deep and sound doctrine. Strong affections&amp;nbsp;for God rooted in truth are the bone and marrow of biblical worship.” &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;John Piper, Desiring God , 90, 76&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;No worship leader, pastor, band, or song will ever bring us close to God. . . . Worship itself cannot lead us into God’s presence. Only Jesus himself can bring us into God’s presence.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Bob Kauflin&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;When such things as the arts and music are used to lead God’s people into worship . . . we have supplanted the leading of the Holy Spirit with music and the arts. Such a move is pagan because music becomes mediatorial in a way that only Jesus Christ is supposed to be. [1 Tim 2:5] This kind of pagan thinking is commonly articulated following corporate worship services when people say things like, “The music really led me into God’s presence,” or “I could not worship well because of the music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;(Doctrine: What Christians Should Believe, p. 354)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Worship is our response to what God has revealed about himself. The Scriptures are the written record here we receive God’s special revelation. Through the Scriptures, we learn about God; we learn about his love for is people; and we discover his redemptive plan. Worship is our response to this foundational truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Kevin J. Navarro, The Complete Worship Leader, 41&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Knowledge of God is the result of the divine initiative, to which man responds by selfcommittal to God, entering through Christ into a holy fellowship. ‘We love, because He first loved us.’ That is the sequence of this worship: the revelation of God in holy Scripture, and the response of His children in the fellowship of the great prayer.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;William D. Maxwell, Concerning Worship, 38&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Worship is the human response to the self revelation of the triune God, which involves: (1)&amp;nbsp;divine initiation in which God graciously reveals&amp;nbsp;himself, his purposes, and will; (2) a spiritual and&amp;nbsp;personal relationship with God through Jesus&amp;nbsp;Christ enabled by the ministry of the Holy Spirit;&amp;nbsp;and (3) a response by the worshiper of joyful&lt;br /&gt;adoration, reverence, humility, submission and&amp;nbsp;obedience.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;David Nelson, from “Voicing God’s Praise: The&amp;nbsp;Use of Music in Worship, in Authentic Worship:&amp;nbsp;Hearing Scripture’s Voice, Applying Its Truth,&amp;nbsp;149&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Worship depends upon revelation, and Christian worship depends upon the revelation of&amp;nbsp;God in Jesus Christ. &amp;nbsp;Worship, that is to say, begins not from our end but from God’s; it springs&amp;nbsp;from the divine initiative in &amp;nbsp;redemption. &amp;nbsp;We&amp;nbsp;come to God because God, in Jesus Christ, has&amp;nbsp;come to us: we love Him because He first loved&amp;nbsp;us: we ascribe to Him supreme worth because He&amp;nbsp;has showed Himself to be worthy of our complete &amp;nbsp;homage, gratitude and trust. &amp;nbsp;Worship is essentially a response, man’s response to God’s&amp;nbsp;Word of grace, to what He has done for us men&amp;nbsp;and for our salvation.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;Raymond Abba, Principles of Christian Worship,&amp;nbsp;5&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2756372593343094055?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2756372593343094055/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/priority-of-word-of-god-in-worship.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2756372593343094055'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2756372593343094055'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/priority-of-word-of-god-in-worship.html' title='The Priority of the Word of God in Worship'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1074782710873750926</id><published>2011-08-26T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-26T09:00:07.330-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Platt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><title type='text'>The Cost of Discipleship</title><content type='html'>Here is a great article to help you consider what it costs to be a disciple of&amp;nbsp;Jesus&amp;nbsp;Christ. &amp;nbsp;Answer the convicting questions below to to see if you love this world or Christ more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gospelcentric.org/2011/07/27/the-cost-of-discipleship/"&gt;The Cost of Discipleship&lt;/a&gt;: by&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #e7e6e2; color: #333333; font-family: 'Century Gothic', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Jeff Keeney&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gospelcentric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cost-of-discipleship-300x199.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://gospelcentric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cost-of-discipleship-300x199.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, &lt;a href="http://bible.cc/luke/14-26.htm"&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;“If  anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife  and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he  cannot be my disciple. &lt;a href="http://bible.cc/luke/14-27.htm"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:25-27&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I imagine that if you heard a leader, pastor or teacher make such an absurd and radical statement, you would either laugh and run away or seek to have him banned from ever speaking at your church again. How do you think the crowds in the first century received this statement? We know from other texts that most of the crowd left Jesus including many of his disciples after other similar “hard” sayings. (cf. Jn 6:66) This stands in extreme contradistinction to how churches, evangelism and even discipleship programs look today! Should we re-evaluate our understanding of what Jesus expects from His followers? What is it exactly that Jesus expects?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Platt in his book &lt;em&gt;Radical&lt;/em&gt; makes the following observation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;‘He was simply and boldly making it clear from the start that if you follow him, you abandon everything – your needs, your desires, even your family.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Was Jesus really telling us to abandon and hate our families? But I thought that we are to be “salt and light” and that the mark of Jesus’ followers was to love – not hate! As a matter of fact, didn’t Jesus tell us that the second greatest is to love our neighbors, even our family (yes – this means even uncle Fester), as ourselves? So what is Jesus talking about?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Platt continues his observation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;Even his simple call in Matthew 4 to his disciples – “Follow me” – contained radical implications for their lives. Jesus was calling them to abandon their comforts, all that was familiar to them and natural for them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;He was calling them to abandon their careers. They were reorienting their entire life’s work around discipleship to Jesus. Their plans and dreams were now being swallowed up in his.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;Jesus was calling them to abandon their possessions. “Drop your nets and your trades as successful fishermen,” he was saying in effect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;Jesus was calling them to abandon their family and their friends. When James and John left their father, we see Jesus’ words in Luke 14 coming alive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ultimately, Jesus was calling them to abandon themselves.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; They were leaving certainty for uncertainty, safety for danger, self-preservation for self-denunciation. In a world that prizes promoting oneself, they were following a teacher who told them to crucify themselves. And history tells us the result. Almost all of them would lose their lives because they responded to his invitation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does Jesus want to keep you from any good thing, or separate you from your family? I don’t think this is what we are to learn from these passages. He simply wants us to know that we &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; have to give up everything and live for Him and love Him in such a radical way that it would make our devotion to our families look like hate. He commands this knowing that our hearts are “ever prone to wander” and knows that there are many things – many good in and of themselves that will pull us away from devotion to Him. He calls for a radical reordering of our priorities, commitments, desires and affections – all as a loving Shepherd.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Application questions:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.&lt;/strong&gt; How has your life as a disciple of Jesus looked compared to His expectations of His disciples?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2.&lt;/strong&gt; What areas of your life do you find yourself being pulled away from Christ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.&lt;/strong&gt; What do you treasure most in life?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4.&lt;/strong&gt; What do you think that you could not live without, and if it was gone – your life would lose its value and significance?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5.&lt;/strong&gt; What areas of your life do you think need to be “radically reordered” as a disciple of Jesus?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. &lt;/strong&gt; What do you think would happen if you, your family, and your church made radical changes in life as disciples of Jesus?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1074782710873750926?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://gospelcentric.org/2011/07/27/the-cost-of-discipleship/' title='The Cost of Discipleship'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1074782710873750926/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/cost-of-discipleship.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1074782710873750926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1074782710873750926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/cost-of-discipleship.html' title='The Cost of Discipleship'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3295699170995445542</id><published>2011-08-25T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-25T09:00:08.658-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sermon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Note Taking'/><title type='text'>A Good Way To Take Sermon Notes</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://biblicalpreaching.net/2011/06/22/if-you-must-take-notes/"&gt;If You Must Take Notes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article is beneficial in&amp;nbsp;understanding&amp;nbsp;how one would take notes that is helpful. &amp;nbsp;I don't find extensive sermon note taking beneficial for me because I miss the point of the sermon if I just concentrate on filling in the blanks or taking extensive notes. &amp;nbsp;Note taking (like extensive use of&amp;nbsp;PowerPoint) tends to make the worship gathering into a class more than a worship gathering. &amp;nbsp;Most disciples are betters served to try to use their imaginations and brains to remember the passage, theme, and point of the sermon, and then write it out at home or in one's quiet time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article may be beneficial in that it keeps you notes short and allows you to focus on the character God, on Christ's promises and commands, and the Gospel that the preacher message contains. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3295699170995445542?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3295699170995445542/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/good-way-to-take-sermon-notes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3295699170995445542'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3295699170995445542'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/good-way-to-take-sermon-notes.html' title='A Good Way To Take Sermon Notes'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>33.7373995 -117.8984895 34.0224285 -117.4315705</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3763186416904985736</id><published>2011-08-24T15:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-24T15:41:00.441-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Ministry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><title type='text'>Trellis and The Vine WORKSHOP in Norco, CANORCO</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;If you are interested in a developing Disciplemaking Philosophy of Ministry for the entire church make plans now to attend the Trellis and the Vine Workshop in Norco on Friday (October 21) and Saturday (October 22).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://trellisandvine.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=135&amp;amp;Itemid=168"&gt;The Trellis and the Vine WORKSHOP in NORCo information&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; 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initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: medium; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;SPEAKERS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://trellisandvine.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=119&amp;amp;Itemid=176" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #7f9832; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Colin Marshall"&gt;Colin Marshall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://trellisandvine.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=118&amp;amp;Itemid=177" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #7f9832; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Marty Sweeney"&gt;Marty Sweeney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="spacer" border="0" height="10" src="http://trellisandvine.org/images/spacer.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="spacer" width="10" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; 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background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #666666; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: medium; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;LOCATION&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First Baptist Church (Norco)&lt;br /&gt;1417 Sixth Street&lt;br /&gt;Norco, CA 92860&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="gc-cs-link" id="gc-number-0" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Call with Google Voice"&gt;&lt;span class="skype_pnh_container" dir="ltr" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: none !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px !important; font-style: normal !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: 14px !important; left: auto !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; line-height: 14px !important; list-style-image: none !important; list-style-position: outside !important; list-style-type: disc !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; overflow-x: hidden !important; overflow-y: hidden !important; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important; page-break-after: auto !important; page-break-before: auto !important; page-break-inside: auto !important; position: static !important; right: auto !important; table-layout: auto !important; text-align: left !important; text-decoration: none !important; text-indent: 0px !important; text-transform: none !important; top: auto !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; white-space: nowrap !important; width: auto !important; word-spacing: normal !important; z-index: 0 !important;" tabindex="-1"&gt; &lt;span class="skype_pnh_highlighting_inactive_common" dir="ltr" skypeaction="skype_dropdown" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: none !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px !important; font-style: normal !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: 14px !important; left: auto !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; line-height: 14px !important; list-style-image: none !important; list-style-position: outside !important; list-style-type: disc !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; overflow-x: hidden !important; overflow-y: hidden !important; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important; page-break-after: auto !important; page-break-before: auto !important; page-break-inside: auto !important; position: static !important; right: auto !important; table-layout: auto !important; text-align: left !important; text-decoration: none !important; text-indent: 0px !important; text-transform: none !important; top: auto !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; white-space: nowrap !important; width: auto !important; word-spacing: normal !important; z-index: 0 !important;" title="Call this phone number in United States of America with Skype: +19512543587"&gt;&lt;span class="skype_pnh_left_span" skypeaction="skype_dropdown" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: url(chrome-extension://lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl/numbers_common_inactive_icon_set.gif) !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px !important; font-style: normal !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: 14px !important; left: auto !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; line-height: 14px !important; list-style-image: none !important; list-style-position: outside !important; list-style-type: disc !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; overflow-x: hidden !important; overflow-y: hidden !important; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important; page-break-after: auto !important; page-break-before: auto !important; page-break-inside: auto !important; position: static !important; right: auto !important; table-layout: auto !important; text-align: left !important; text-decoration: none !important; text-indent: 0px !important; text-transform: none !important; top: auto !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; white-space: nowrap !important; width: 6px !important; word-spacing: normal !important; z-index: 0 !important;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="skype_pnh_dropart_span" skypeaction="skype_dropdown" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: url(chrome-extension://lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl/numbers_common_inactive_icon_set.gif) !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: -11px 0px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px !important; font-style: normal !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: 14px !important; left: auto !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; line-height: 14px !important; list-style-image: none !important; list-style-position: outside !important; list-style-type: disc !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; overflow-x: hidden !important; overflow-y: hidden !important; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important; page-break-after: auto !important; page-break-before: auto !important; page-break-inside: auto !important; position: static !important; right: auto !important; table-layout: auto !important; text-align: left !important; text-decoration: none !important; text-indent: 0px !important; text-transform: none !important; top: auto !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; white-space: nowrap !important; width: 27px !important; word-spacing: normal !important; z-index: 0 !important;" title="Skype actions"&gt;&lt;span class="skype_pnh_dropart_flag_span" skypeaction="skype_dropdown" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: url(chrome-extension://lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl/flags.gif) !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: -5849px 1px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px !important; font-style: normal !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: 14px !important; left: auto !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; line-height: 14px !important; list-style-image: none !important; list-style-position: outside !important; list-style-type: disc !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; overflow-x: hidden !important; overflow-y: hidden !important; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important; page-break-after: auto !important; page-break-before: auto !important; page-break-inside: auto !important; position: static !important; right: auto !important; table-layout: auto !important; text-align: left !important; text-decoration: none !important; text-indent: 0px !important; text-transform: none !important; top: auto !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; white-space: nowrap !important; width: 18px !important; word-spacing: normal !important; z-index: 0 !important;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="skype_pnh_textarea_span" style="background-attachment: scroll !important; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent !important; background-image: url(chrome-extension://lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl/numbers_common_inactive_icon_set.gif) !important; background-origin: initial; background-position: -125px 0px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px !important; border-collapse: separate !important; border-color: initial !important; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px !important; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px !important; border-style: initial; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px !important; bottom: auto !important; clear: none !important; clip: auto !important; color: #49535a; cursor: pointer !important; direction: ltr !important; display: inline 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vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;SATURDAY (OCTOBER 22)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;4pm - Registration&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;9am - Session 3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;5:15pm - Session 1&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;10:30am - Break&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;6:45pm - Dinner Break&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;10:45am - Session 4&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;8pm - Session 2&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;12pm - Lunch Break&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;9:30pm - End&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;1:15pm - Session 5&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;2:30pm - Break&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;2:45pm - Session 6&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;3:30pm - End&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3763186416904985736?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://trellisandvine.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=135&amp;Itemid=168' title='Trellis and The Vine WORKSHOP in Norco, CANORCO'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3763186416904985736/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/trellis-and-vine-workshop-in-norco.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3763186416904985736'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3763186416904985736'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/trellis-and-vine-workshop-in-norco.html' title='Trellis and The Vine WORKSHOP in Norco, CANORCO'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5688009592292162808</id><published>2011-08-23T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-29T17:51:09.322-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spiritual Gifts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Charistmatic'/><title type='text'>A Charismatic is What?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Michael Patton does a great job explaining different perspectives of Charismatic gifts with the following framework:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/charismatic-across-spectum.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/charismatic-across-spectum.png" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cessationist &lt;/b&gt;-&amp;nbsp;believes that particular gifts, such as tongues, prophecy, miracles,  healings, and the like, necessarily ceased in the first century due to an exhaustion in purpose.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Soft Cessationist&lt;/b&gt; - believes that and are open to God’s use of the sign gifts in areas that are unevangelized.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Continuationist&lt;/b&gt; - believes that while many of these gifts would have indeed served as signs to the outside world, their primary function is not to evangelize of the lost, but to ensure the health of the church.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Charismatic &lt;/b&gt;- one who believes that all of the gifts of the Spirit have continued, are normative, and should be sought out by the church&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He&amp;nbsp;also&amp;nbsp;distinguishes between unhealthy/unorthodox belief range of Charismatic gifts and healthy/orthodox belief range of charismatic gifts. Read more at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/07/why-i-amnot-charismatic-what-does-it-mean-to-be-charismatic-c-michael-patton/"&gt;Why I Am/Not Charismatic: What Does it Mean to Be Charismatic? – C Michael Patton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5688009592292162808?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5688009592292162808/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/charismatic-is-what.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5688009592292162808'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5688009592292162808'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/charismatic-is-what.html' title='A Charismatic is What?'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7102284122938832903</id><published>2011-08-22T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-22T09:00:13.969-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous Preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous'/><title type='text'>Wesleyan Sermons » With or Without Notes</title><content type='html'>Here is a good website to learn to preach without notes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wesleyansermons.com/2011/08/08/with-or-without-notes/"&gt;Wesleyan Sermons » With or Without Notes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He uses a mapping process to create sermons, which I think is very helpful.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7102284122938832903?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://wesleyansermons.com/2011/08/08/with-or-without-notes/' title='Wesleyan Sermons » With or Without Notes'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7102284122938832903/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/wesleyan-sermons-with-or-without-notes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7102284122938832903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7102284122938832903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/wesleyan-sermons-with-or-without-notes.html' title='Wesleyan Sermons » With or Without Notes'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-290019228948868656</id><published>2011-08-21T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-21T09:00:00.762-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quote'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Quote; On being an 'evangelical'</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1396700"&gt;On being an 'evangelical'&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img align="left" alt="Randy Alcorn small" border="0" hspace="2" src="http://www.onenewsnow.com/uploadedImages/RandyAlcorn_small.jpg" title="Randy Alcorn small" vspace="2" /&gt;I feel like right now among evangelicals -- including authors, musicians, speakers, professors, and pastors -- there's a runaway train of unbiblical and unclear thinking.&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-290019228948868656?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/290019228948868656/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/quote-on-being-evangelical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/290019228948868656'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/290019228948868656'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/quote-on-being-evangelical.html' title='Quote; On being an &apos;evangelical&apos;'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3743940163196600840</id><published>2011-08-20T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-20T09:00:04.291-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sabbath'/><title type='text'>Perspectives on the Sabbath</title><content type='html'>Here is a way you can study the Sabbath issue in Scripture:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://andynaselli.com/wp-content/uploads/Donato.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://andynaselli.com/wp-content/uploads/Donato.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedForum/~3/P8B2aPIQgqs/"&gt;Perspectives on the Sabbath&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&amp;amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Focoins.info%3Agenerator&amp;amp;rft.title=Perspectives+on+the+Sabbath&amp;amp;rft.aulast=Bucey&amp;amp;rft.aufirst=Camden&amp;amp;rft.subject=Camden+Bucey&amp;amp;rft.subject=Chris+Donato&amp;amp;rft.subject=Christ+the+Center&amp;amp;rft.subject=Featured&amp;amp;rft.subject=Jeff+Waddington&amp;amp;rft.subject=Systematic+Theology&amp;amp;rft.source=Reformed+Forum&amp;amp;rft.date=2011-08-19&amp;amp;rft.type=blogPost&amp;amp;rft.format=text&amp;amp;rft.identifier=http://reformedforum.org/ctc190/&amp;amp;rft.language=English"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chris Donato joins the panel to speak about various views on the Sabbath. Mr. Donato has editing the book &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Perspectives-Sabbath-Christopher-John-Donato/dp/0805448217"&gt;Perspectives on the Sabbath: 4 Views&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/em&gt;published by Broadman and Holman Publishers. Skip MacCarty (Andrews University) defends the Seventh-day view which argues the fourth commandment is a moral law of God requiring us to keep the seventh day (Saturday) holy. Jospeh A Pipa (Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary) backs the Christian Sabbath view which reasons that ever since the resurrection of Christ, the one day in seven to be kept holy is the first day of the week. Craig L. Blomberg (Denver Seminary) supports the Fulfillment view which says that since Christ has brought the true Sabbath rest into the present, the Sabbath commands of the Old Testament are no longer binding on believers. Charles P. Arand (Concordia Seminary) upholds the Lutheran view that the Sabbath commandment was given to Jews alone and does not concern Christians. Rest and worship are still required but not tied to a particular day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img height="1" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedForum/~4/P8B2aPIQgqs" width="1" /&gt;see&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://andynaselli.com/four-views-on-the-sabbath"&gt;http://andynaselli.com/four-views-on-the-sabbath&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for a quick review of the book.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3743940163196600840?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3743940163196600840/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/perspectives-on-sabbath.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3743940163196600840'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3743940163196600840'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/perspectives-on-sabbath.html' title='Perspectives on the Sabbath'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-650982838621979206</id><published>2011-08-19T14:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-19T16:34:33.964-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='self-esteem'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Failure'/><title type='text'>Why Self-esteme does not work...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 class="entry-title" style="font-size: 18px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; max-width: 650px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;I always believed that learning to fail well is a key to living a life of trust in God. &amp;nbsp;This article is a great example when we think that all of life should be easy and successful in our eyes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2 class="entry-title" style="font-size: 18px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; max-width: 650px;"&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2 class="entry-title" style="font-size: 18px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; max-width: 650px;"&gt;&lt;a class="entry-title-link" href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/07/08/failure-is-not-an-option/" style="color: #2244bb; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"&gt;Failure Is Not an Option&lt;div class="entry-title-go-to" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-image: url(http://www.google.com/reader/ui/3607832474-entry-action-icons.png); background-origin: initial; background-position: 0% -416px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; display: inline; height: 17px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-left: 16px;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="entry-author" style="color: #666666; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="entry-source-title-parent"&gt;from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a class="entry-source-title" href="http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fthegospelcoalition.org%2Fblogs%2Ftgc%2Ffeed%2F" style="color: #2244bb; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"&gt;The Gospel Coalition Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="entry-author-parent"&gt;by&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="entry-author-name"&gt;Collin Hansen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="entry-debug" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="entry-annotations" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="entry-body" style="color: black; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; max-width: 650px; padding-top: 0.5em;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="item-body" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;dl style="width: 220px;"&gt;&lt;dt&gt;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/files/2011/07/Atlantic-Cult-of-Self-Esteem.jpg" style="color: #2244bb;" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="" height="280" src="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/files/2011/07/Atlantic-Cult-of-Self-Esteem.jpg" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px;" title="Atlantic Cult of Self-Esteem" width="210" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/dt&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Your kids will fail. This is both inevitable and also necessary. Apparently not many parents today want to hear this uncomfortable fact. And they certainly don’t want to implement it in how they discipline their children. Writing the cover story for&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;The Atlantic&lt;/em&gt;’s July/August issue, therapist Lori Gottlieb alerts us that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/07/how-to-land-your-kid-in-therapy/8555/" style="color: #2244bb;" target="_blank"&gt;the cult of self-esteem is ruining our kids&lt;/a&gt;. Convinced they are the center of the universe and capable of anything, our children have become insufferable narcissists. Then, when these kids grow up and fail, as they must, they head for the nearest therapist, worried their lives have gone horribly wrong. Gottlieb writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[R]ates of anxiety and depression have also risen in tandem with self-esteem. Why is this? “Narcissists are happy when they’re younger, because they’re the center of the universe,” [psychology professor Jean] Twenge explains. “Their parents act like their servants, shuttling them to any activity they choose and catering to their every desire. Parents are constantly telling their children how special and talented they are. This gives them an inflated view of their specialness compared to other human beings. Instead of feeling good about themselves, they feel better than everyone else.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;As you might expect, this attitude wreaks havoc in the real world of adulthood. Try giving one of these college students a B, let alone a C. You better be prepared for a visit from the student and maybe even a phone call from a parent. Or try telling young adults in their first job that their work doesn’t cut it. You just might be looking for a new employee when the offended party looks for a workplace where his creativity and brilliance will be “appreciated.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Whatsoever Does Not Please&lt;/h3&gt;It’s not hard to see, then, why “moralistic therapeutic deism” (to borrow Christian Smith’s famous descriptor) plagues our churches. This god wants what’s best for us—chiefly, our happiness in all circumstances. He aims to please. Whatever does not please, then, must not come from god. Consider the latest findings of Smith and his colleagues, revealed in their forthcoming book,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Transition-Dark-Emerging-Adulthood/dp/0199828024/?tag=thegospcoal-20" style="color: #2244bb;" target="_blank"&gt;Lost in Transition: The Dark Side of Emerging Adulthood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. They asked young adults age 18 to 23, “If you were unsure of what was right or wrong in a particular situation, how would you decide what to do?” The most popular answer (39 percent): “doing what would make you feel happy.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can hopefully see, this is a perfect recipe for discipleship disaster. Happiness is neither assured nor even God’s ultimate aim for us. Sometimes, for example, he demonstrates the grace of his fatherly concern by disciplining those he loves (Prov. 3:11-12; Heb: 12:5-11). When we aim primarily for happiness in our parenting and discipleship, we actually set up these young adults for needless failure. They will be surprised and hopelessly discouraged when their faith is eventually challenged, whether by skeptical professors and classmates or the inevitable disappointment of life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Searching Scripture in Vain&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;The God of the Bible does not seem so concerned to protect us from all failure. In fact, you’ll search Scripture in vain for anyone but Jesus who avoids failure altogether. Abraham, the man of faith, displays his lack of faith when he lies about his wife to protect himself (Gen. 12:13). Moses, the man of bold and steadfast conviction in God’s power to deliver his people, takes matters into his own hands to control a rebellious people (Num. 20:11-12). David, a man after God’s own heart, indulges the lust of his flesh and takes another man’s wife (2 Sam. 11:2-4). If these men failed, so will we.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="entry-body" style="color: black; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; max-width: 650px; padding-top: 0.5em;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="item-body" style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Indeed, the whole Gospel of Mark seems to highlight the failure of the disciples. With hardened hearts, the disciples failed to understand the miracle Jesus performed by multiplying the loaves (Mark 6:40, 52). After Jesus explains that he will be delivered up to die, the disciples can think only of themselves (Mark 9:30, 34). And when Jesus needs them most, while preparing to offer himself on the cross, his best friends abandon him and scatter (Mark 14:27). Yet even then, Jesus promises to return to them after his resurrection (Mark 14:28).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;In every case Mark juxtaposes the faithless disciples with Jesus, making an essential point: Jesus is Lord, and we are not. Get this wrong and you will not grow spiritually. You will be a sheep who does not recognize his need for a shepherd.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Failure is a vital means employed by God to reveal this spiritual reality. So if we want to help our loved ones grow in Christ, we need to account for failure—forgiving them when necessary, persevering with them through trials, and affording them freedom to learn life’s painful lessons in their own timing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Truth the Hard Way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;This last part strikes me as most difficult for Christian parents. We rightly want to shield our children from the pain of sin, especially the sort we have shamefully and regrettably indulged in. To be clear, this is a good thing. Responsible parents keep pornography out of the home, take interest in education, and warn their children against bad influences.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;At the same time, we must avoid leaving the impression that failure can be avoided altogether. How do we make this mistake? We might create false expectations by preventing our children from befriending any unbelievers. Or packing their schedules only with esteem-boosting, organized activities. Or letting them off the hook from doing household chores. Or teaching the moral lessons of Scripture and ignoring the litany of failures pointing toward our need for a Savior who never fails us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;And what if you don’t teach your children how to overcome by the grace of God and power of the Holy Spirit by patiently enduring their failures? They’ll find out the truth anyway, the hard way. They’ll see failure in church with the backbiting, gossip, power plays, and judgmentalism. They’ll see it in themselves when they struggle with doubts and no one will listen. They’ll see it in you and wonder why you can’t just admit it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;If you don’t teach them that Christians sometimes fail, then they’ll conclude Christianity has failed. But by the grace of God they’ll add to the numbers of bitter adults who grew up in the church and rail against its destructive influence. Yet when they see us fail, repent, and ask God’s forgiveness, they’ll see in action the most glorious truth of all, that God himself took on flesh and walked among us, failures all, so we might walk with him in heaven forevermore. They’ll know that when they fail, too, God’s grace abounds to even the chief of sinners.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-650982838621979206?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/650982838621979206/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/why-self-esteme-does-work.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/650982838621979206'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/650982838621979206'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/why-self-esteme-does-work.html' title='Why Self-esteme does not work...'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1404185016413320366</id><published>2011-08-15T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-15T09:00:06.490-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TAMU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Aggies'/><title type='text'>Texas A&amp;M Football 2011 Promo - Prepare to Stand</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQWGN4bDC4&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="295" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/NTQWGN4bDC4?fs=1" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1404185016413320366?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1404185016413320366/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/texas-football-2011-promo-prepare-to.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1404185016413320366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1404185016413320366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/texas-football-2011-promo-prepare-to.html' title='Texas A&amp;M Football 2011 Promo - Prepare to Stand'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/NTQWGN4bDC4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-737055989971437320</id><published>2011-08-14T07:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-14T07:48:01.555-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theological Taxonomy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spectrum of beliefs'/><title type='text'>Theology of different Christian groups</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/07/evangelicalism-vs-fundamentalism-vs-liberalism/"&gt;Evangelicalism vs. Fundamentalism vs. Liberalism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/essentials.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fundamentalist.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Evangelical.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/liberal.gif" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-737055989971437320?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/737055989971437320/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/theology-of-different-christian-groups.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/737055989971437320'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/737055989971437320'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/theology-of-different-christian-groups.html' title='Theology of different Christian groups'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4327457558690279031</id><published>2011-08-13T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-13T09:30:00.692-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Biblical Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NCT'/><title type='text'>The Various Branches of New Covenant Theology</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="gmail_quote"&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: #c3d9ff; font-size: 1px !important; line-height: 0px !important; margin: 0px 2px; padding-top: 1px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://christourcovenant.blogspot.com/2009/02/all-proponents-of-nct-believe-christ.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Various Branches of New Covenant Theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: sans-serif; margin: 0px 10px; overflow: auto; width: 100%;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.5em;"&gt;via &lt;a href="http://christourcovenant.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Christ, Our Covenant&lt;/a&gt; by Steve Fuchs on 2/28/09&lt;/div&gt;Like other systems of theology, there are various branches of New Covenant Theology (NCT). Although all proponents of each branch believe Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant (OC) Laws perfectly in his person, and insist on faith in his work and person for salvation, there are at least 4 branches of NCT that can be distinguished from one another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This analysis is relatively brief in its attempt to give an overview of the current strains of NCT, some of which you may already be familiar with, and some you may not. In particular, its purpose is to identify this blog's strain -&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;- within the overall NCT dialogue, along with some of the names associated with each branch. It is &lt;strong&gt;*not*&lt;/strong&gt; an exhaustive description of NCT nor of the individual branches, but in 'Cliff Notes' fashion attempts to highlight meaningful distinctions between them as a service to those outside (and in) who may be confused when they hear about &lt;em&gt;New Covenant Theology&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should be noted that although it was unintended, the order they appear below happens to reflect a relative ordering (at least in the traditional sense) from least continuity to greatest.&lt;br /&gt;In addition, the descriptors in &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;bold italics &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;are not officially embraced by the NCT community, but are used here for clarification.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Statutes NCT &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;(Greg Gibson)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;…is a kind of Abolish/Replace hermeneutic in which the commands in the NT are seen to be The Law of Christ which totally replace the Decalogue and all OT statutes. The nature of Law as a list of codified statutes remains identical, while the statutes themselves change and are not as binding because of Christ. This is not unlike Covenant Theology in that it clings to statutes for a rule of life, albeit focuses on an entirely different set of statutes - a radical discontinuity.&lt;br /&gt;  The basic message is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;"Obey the NT commands; they totally replace the OT commands." &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subset NCT &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;(Steve Lehrer)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;…as portrayed in his book, this branch emphasizes that only those statutes repeated in the NT still carry weight for the NC child of God. Those not repeated are ignored unless covered by another principle that is repeated.&lt;br /&gt;For instance, marrying one's sister is ok provided it's not illegal, since it is not repeated in the NT texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The basic message is: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;"The NT alone determines NC righteousness primarily as a subset of the OT definitions."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Classic NCT / New Law Giver NCT&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (John Reisinger, Jon Zens, Gary Long, Tom Wells, &amp;amp; Fred Zaspel)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;… NCT is a term originally coined by Jon Zens, who along with Reisinger, Long, Wells and Zaspel laid the recent foundations of New Covenant Theology through their respective books and Reisinger's Sound of Grace online ministry. There may be subtle differences in the perspectives of these 'fathers' of the NCT movement, but most are not significant. Reisinger's book 'In Defense of Jesus – The New Law Giver' offers the most direct defense against the idea that NCT is antinomian. In it he emphasizes Jesus as the New -and ultimate- Lawgiver who replaces Moses in both position and authority because He is God. Jesus is not just another Administrator; he is not just another Moses. He is God, and thus has power to author righteousness in his covenant, whereas Moses was only a messenger.&lt;br /&gt;In this branch of NCT, some characteristics of righteousness (ie Polygamy) may be unique to each particular covenant because Jesus has the authority to add or remove them. Thus, in the NC some elements are added, some are subtracted, though many are preserved. The focus is on the New Law Giver rather than statutes, and the Law of Christ as a rule of life is not precisely codified beyond Love God and Love neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The basic message is: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;"Obey Christ, not Moses – Christ is the ultimate Law Giver and the Law has been authored by Him for this Covenant in which He has full authority."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment New Covenant Theology &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;(see below for list of proponents)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;…This branch grew out of the genesis of Zens', Reisinger's, Long's, Wells' and Zaspel's &lt;em&gt;Classic NCT &lt;/em&gt;and is spreading within the larger community primarily via the Sound of Grace.&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;More-so than any other branch, &lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT &lt;/em&gt;maintains a clear appreciation for what the confession framers were grasping at in regards to an everlasting moral aspect of God's righteousness. However, unlike their CT brethren, advocates of &lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT &lt;/em&gt;do not see the codified Decalogue as the fullest expression of that righteousness to man, nor the standard to which Christ is conforming His own. Rather, this branch sees God's inherent (&amp;amp; unchanging) righteousness now fully revealed through a NEW SORT of Covenant/Law.&lt;br /&gt;  Whereas the OC/Law was a &lt;em&gt;type&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;shadow&lt;/em&gt; of His righteousness pictured in words and letters, the NC is &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the &lt;/strong&gt;antitype&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;substance&lt;/em&gt; of His righteousness reflected by the former. The NC is the &lt;em&gt;fulfillment&lt;/em&gt; of the OC &lt;em&gt;picture - &lt;/em&gt;the &lt;em&gt;antitype&lt;/em&gt; of the OC &lt;em&gt;types. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;Noting in Isaiah 42:6, 49:8, &amp;amp; 55:3-4 that the New Covenant was not promised as another tablet or code of statutes, but a person - the Suffering Servant, the question became – 'What does it mean for the incarnate Son to be THE New Covenant/Law of Christ?'&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;To answer, one has to acknowledge that it is common for God to anthropomorphize abstracts such as the WAY, the TRUTH, the LIFE, the LIGHT of men, etc. in the person of Christ, and most shockingly it tells us He was the WORD of God incarnated! (John 1). Further, we learn from scripture that this living WORD is now indwelling His people as the Spirit of Christ written on their hearts (Ezek 36:26-7) who causes them (like a King who &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; the Law) to walk in His ways and obey God's righteousness. This is achieved by giving them a new spirit – a new self – a new nature, bound up in union with Himself.&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;With this incarnation of God's New AND Everlasting Covenant, the entire OT in &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; of its covenants and statutes; the whole of the Law and Prophets; including but not limited to the Decalogue become types and shadows of Him, for He is the substance they reflect. His Righteousness is not a Standard by which God lives. Righteousness is a description of His perfect nature. HE himself is the Standard, not the codes. The codes were mere shadows of the things to come, but Christ is the substance of God's nature revealed in human life – God's Righteousness fully expressed in living flesh. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Col 2:9 For &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; ... 16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- 17 things which are &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;a mere shadow of what is to come&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;but the substance belongs to Christ&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. (NASB)&lt;/blockquote&gt;There is much that could be said about this, but the emphasis is on OC types being pictures of Christ rather than themselves being the substance of God's Righteousness, because Christ IS that Substance (Col 2:16-17). As such, all is fulfilled in and by Christ in two distinct but necessary ways:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;The OC types/pictures of righteousness (all the OT law and prophets and covenants), including the reality behind them were fulfilled in and suffered by christ on behalf of His own, but that's not the full extent of it…&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The NC Substance of perfection (which the OC merely shadowed) is fulfilled/and being fulfilled (already/not yet) within God's people by virtue of their union with Christ and by way of His indwelling them. God's children will not be made perfect in the likeness of a code like the Pharisees. They are not being conformed to the image of a Law of Letters, but to the image of Christ himself, the Law of the Spirit. This transformation into His very image comes by way of His indwelling and becoming ONE with them in spirit. Through that intimate union they are not only counted as perfect, but are being made to be perfect as their Heavenly Father is perfect. This is an often overlooked part of fulfillment as communicated by 'I did not come to abolish the Law, but to FULFILL it'.&lt;br /&gt;  The very SUBSTANCE of God's Righteousness must be fulfilled in them by Him. He fulfilled the substance of God's Righteousness FOR them in His incarnate body and suffering, but He is also fulfilling the substance of His Righteousness IN them by way of indwelling union – this Spirit of Christ indwelling them as a down payment in the 'already' functions as the law of the Spirit effectively transforming them for the 'not-yet.'&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;So then, what's NEW is the nature of covenant/law. The New and Everlasting Covenant is a person (Isa 42:6,49:8), Jesus Christ, rather than a new or modified document. He is a new administrator, but the covenant he administers is not of the same sort as the one Moses administered. It's no longer a shadow in the form of codes. He is now the substance of perfect righteousness becoming one with them to give them a new nature/spirit identical to His own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;While the OC reflected God's Righteousness to them in the shadows of words and letters...&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Christ revealed the substance of His Righteousness in the flesh and suffered its consequences on their behalf, so that...&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Now Christ's Spirit is transforming them into the very image of His righteousness making them perfect by nature. Fulfilling the substance of God's righteous nature in His people's hearts. &lt;em&gt;"I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill" &lt;/em&gt;begins with living it in His own flesh even to the cross, but this fulfillment includes bringing the substance of God's Righteousness to reality in them as well. Something codes could never do. He fulfills it both &lt;em&gt;for them &lt;/em&gt;unto forgiveness, and &lt;em&gt;in them &lt;/em&gt;unto perfection.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How then do we know what we are to behave like and what is sin? What is the rule of life?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;The NT calls for obedience, but it is more indicative than imperative. The Sermon on the Mount, the upper room discourse, the exhortations in the epistles -- especially Pauline -- on walking in the Spirit, fruits of the Spirit, and other teachings of Christ and the Apostles show us what the Spirit is doing in us as shadowed by the entire Law and Prophets and made substantive in Christ. The NT expresses how we Joyfully walk with assurance toward one day being perfectly transformed into His likeness – a likeness brought about by way of an indwelling oneness to be fully consummated on the wedding day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The basic message of &lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT &lt;/em&gt;is: &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Joyfully be what you ARE and walk – better yet run - like Christ toward the substance He is transforming you into. You are being conformed into HIS image, not the image of a Decalogue."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Steve Fuchs – 2008&lt;br /&gt;(Below is a list of persons who, as of this posting, recognize &lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT &lt;/em&gt;as a part of the broader NCT community. They have added their names here as part of a growing list who agree with &lt;em&gt;Picture-Fulfillment NCT&lt;/em&gt; in many, if not all regards, most particularly that Christ is the New and Everlasting Covenant promised by our Father in heaven.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moe Bergeron – SOG moderator; Pastor at Sovereign Grace Fellowship, Boscawen NH - &lt;a href="http://www.sovgracenh.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.sovgracenh.com/&lt;/a&gt; ; Originator of Piper's Notes online, Sound of Grace list (SOG), and SOG Online for John Reisinger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil Whitcombe - SOG moderator UK&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joseph Krygier - SOG moderator; Pastor at New Covenant Baptist Fellowship, Evans, NY - &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.fbceny.org/&lt;/a&gt; ; NCT think-tank conference organizer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John T. Jeffery - SOG moderator &amp;amp; Pastor at Wayside Gospel Chapel, Greentown, PA - &lt;a href="http://www.waysidegospelchapel.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.waysidegospelchapel.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chad Richard Bresson – SOG contributor; Pastor for Spiritual Development at Clearcreek Chapel, Springboro, OH - &lt;a href="http://www.clearcreekchapel.org/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.clearcreekchapel.org/&lt;/a&gt; ; &amp;amp; The Vossed World blogger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ed Trefzger - SOG contributor, &lt;em&gt;Missional+Reformed &lt;/em&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;em&gt;Of Whom I am the Foremost &lt;/em&gt;blogger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kerry Kinchen - SOG contributor; Pastor at Bridgeway Bible Church, Bulverde, TX - &lt;a href="http://www.bridgewaybiblechurch.org/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.bridgewaybiblechurch.org/&lt;/a&gt; ; &amp;amp; Author of the book &lt;em&gt;'Biblically Defending Salvation'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew Morizio - SOG contributor &amp;amp; &lt;em&gt;The Gospel Muse &lt;/em&gt;blogger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Josh Wood - SOG contributor&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dustin Segers – SOG contributor &amp;amp; Pastor at Shepherd's Fellowship Baptist Church, Greensboro, NC - &lt;a href="http://www.graceinthetriad.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.graceinthetriad.com/&lt;/a&gt;; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.graceinthetriad.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.graceinthetriad.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt; blogger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Painter – SOG contributor &amp;amp; Pastor at Covenant Baptist Church, Uniontown, PA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shane Becker – SOG contributor, owner of &lt;a href="http://www.solochristo.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.solochristo.com/&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="http://www.newcovenanttheology.org/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.newcovenanttheology.org/&lt;/a&gt;, &amp;amp; LiftedVeil blogger&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4327457558690279031?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4327457558690279031/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/various-branches-of-new-covenant.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4327457558690279031'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4327457558690279031'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/various-branches-of-new-covenant.html' title='The Various Branches of New Covenant Theology'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>11696 Chadwick Rd, Corona, CA 92880, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.879914 -117.66503</georss:point><georss:box>-1.152669000000003 -177.430655 68.912497 -57.899405</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4735581332669343015</id><published>2011-08-12T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-12T09:30:01.198-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible study'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Exegesis'/><title type='text'>Serving to Master Two? — Historical Background and the Bible</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DGBlog/~3/-rbA_lLALTk/serving-to-master-two-historical-background-and-the-bible"&gt;Serving to Master Two? — Historical Background and the Bible&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;br /&gt;How much historical background must a pastor know in order to preach the Bible with authority?&lt;br /&gt;In this video, D. A. Carson and John Piper discuss the role of extrabiblical sources in biblical interpretation:&lt;br /&gt;Watch the video at &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/07/25/mastered-by-the-book/"&gt;The Gospel Coalition&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4735581332669343015?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DGBlog/~3/-rbA_lLALTk/serving-to-master-two-historical-background-and-the-bible' title='Serving to Master Two? — Historical Background and the Bible'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4735581332669343015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/serving-to-master-two-historical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4735581332669343015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4735581332669343015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/serving-to-master-two-historical.html' title='Serving to Master Two? — Historical Background and the Bible'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2050164293508597625</id><published>2011-08-11T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-11T09:30:00.916-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Getting Things Done'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='GTD'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Time Management'/><title type='text'>Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best [Productivity]</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/fQH7p7R2fLI/how-to-build-your-own-productivity-style-by-remixing-from-the-best"&gt;Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best [Productivity]&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="float: left; padding-right: 10px;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Click here to read Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best" height="120" src="http://cache.lifehacker.com/assets/images/17/2011/08/small_nextactions-banner.jpg" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(179, 179, 179); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(179, 179, 179); border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1px; border-right-color: rgb(179, 179, 179); border-right-style: solid; border-right-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(179, 179, 179); border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px;" title="Click here to read Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best" width="190" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://lifehacker.com/5828033/how-to-build-your-own-productivity-style-by-remixing-from-the-best" title="Click here to read Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;											&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You've tried everything: asked around, played with a few theories about 'how you work best', and downloaded app after app promising to make you more efficient. If you feel like nothing's working, this crash course examines some of the most lauded productivity systems, then walks you through how to can cherry pick the methods that work for you to create your own productivity style. 				&lt;a href="http://lifehacker.com/5828033/how-to-build-your-own-productivity-style-by-remixing-from-the-best" title="Click here to read more about Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best [Productivity]"&gt;More »&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://ads.pheedo.com/click.phdo?s=79d8586c8434c68206b3ca4c7c859e07&amp;amp;p=1"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://ads.pheedo.com/img.phdo?s=79d8586c8434c68206b3ca4c7c859e07&amp;amp;p=1" style="border: 0;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2050164293508597625?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/fQH7p7R2fLI/how-to-build-your-own-productivity-style-by-remixing-from-the-best' title='Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best [Productivity]'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2050164293508597625/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/build-your-own-productivity-style-by.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2050164293508597625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2050164293508597625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/build-your-own-productivity-style-by.html' title='Build Your Own Productivity Style by Remixing the Best [Productivity]'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2445125049704201069</id><published>2011-08-10T10:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-10T10:00:02.516-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eternal Punishment'/><title type='text'>Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell: a response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins - Blog - Eternal Perspective Ministries</title><content type='html'>May I&amp;nbsp;recommend&amp;nbsp;that you read the review of&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.epm.org/blog/2011/Jun/22/francis-chans-erasing-hell"&gt;Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell: a response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins - Blog by Eternal Perspective Ministries&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It is a good review and very helpful when he compares this book to "God Wins" by Mark Galli. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Erasing Hell" height="320" src="http://www.epm.org/static/uploads/images/blog/erasing-hell.jpg" width="215" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img alt="God Wins" height="320" src="http://www.epm.org/static/uploads/images/blog/god-wins.jpg" width="214" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2445125049704201069?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.epm.org/blog/2011/Jun/22/francis-chans-erasing-hell' title='Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell: a response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins - Blog - Eternal Perspective Ministries'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2445125049704201069/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/francis-chans-erasing-hell-response-to.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2445125049704201069'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2445125049704201069'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/francis-chans-erasing-hell-response-to.html' title='Francis Chan’s Erasing Hell: a response to Rob Bell’s Love Wins - Blog - Eternal Perspective Ministries'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-106892234938056015</id><published>2011-08-09T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-09T09:30:05.606-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Covenant Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NCT'/><title type='text'>Grace in the Triad: NCT ThinkTank 2011 Conference Videos</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://graceinthetriad.blogspot.com/2011/07/nct-thinktank-2011-conference-videos.html"&gt;Grace in the Triad: NCT ThinkTank 2011 Conference Videos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 1&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_1.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_1.mov"&gt;John “Jack” Jeffery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_1.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_1.mov"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Severino Pancaro&lt;/a&gt;: The Law in the Fourth Gospel – The Metamorphosis of “Nomistic Termini” and The Law in the Fourth Gospel – The Transferal of Symbols for the Law to Jesus in the Fourth Gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 2&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_2.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/jack_2.mov"&gt;John Jack Jeffery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carl F. H. Henry, “The Holy Spirit and Christian Ethics”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 3&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/nct_apologetics.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/nct_apologetics.mov"&gt;Dustin Segers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NCT and Apologetics&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 4&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/joe_1.mp4" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/joe_1.mp4"&gt;Joseph Krygier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God’s Glorious Mission – Toward a Biblical Theology view of Mission(s)  Rooted in the Attributes of God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 5&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/ed_remnant.mp4" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/ed_remnant.mp4"&gt;Ed Trefzger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apart from us they should not be made perfect: A  survey of views on Church and Israel (including a surprising NCT view)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 6&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/ed_part2.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/ed_part2.mov"&gt;Ed Trefzger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apart from us they should not b perfect  – my thoughts on an NCT-informed view of OT/NT saints and the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 7&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/chad_1.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/chad_1.mov"&gt;Chad Bresson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Incarnation of the Abstract: New Covenant Theology and the Enfleshment of the Law&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 8&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/nct_justice.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/nct_justice.mov"&gt;Dustin Segers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NCT and Social Justice – Is the Tim Keller model biblical?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 9 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/joe_2.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/joe_2.mov"&gt;Shane Becker and Joseph Krygier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God’s Glorious Mission – Toward a Biblical Theology view of Mission(s) looking at The People on Mission&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 10&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/dunn.mp4" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/dunn.mp4"&gt;John Dunn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Look at OT parallels, couplets, and typology of the redemptive historical theme from the Garden through the Nation of Israel&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Session 11&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/moe.mov" style="color: #bb3300;" title="http://www.fbceny.org/thinktank2011/moe.mov"&gt;Moe Bergeron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Promise and the Necessity of The Spirit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-106892234938056015?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/106892234938056015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/grace-in-triad-nct-thinktank-2011.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/106892234938056015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/106892234938056015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/grace-in-triad-nct-thinktank-2011.html' title='Grace in the Triad: NCT ThinkTank 2011 Conference Videos'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1286887613771403066</id><published>2011-08-08T18:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-08T18:51:06.286-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Carnality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Great message for church leaders who try to lure people through carnal means. &amp;nbsp;I have always believe that the way you reach people for Christ is the way you keep them. &amp;nbsp;If you use entertainment to win people you will have to keep entertaining people. &amp;nbsp;But if you you the exposition of scripture in various groups then it is thorugh the scriptures that your ministry will be built.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/26100841"&gt;http://vimeo.com/26100841&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/26100841?byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/26100841"&gt;Church Leaders Who Permit Carnality&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/ncfic"&gt;NCFIC&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1286887613771403066?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1286887613771403066/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/great-message-for-church-leaders-who.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1286887613771403066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1286887613771403066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/great-message-for-church-leaders-who.html' title=''/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4629986244613760350</id><published>2011-08-05T14:48:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-05T14:48:02.597-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Gospel Centric Quote of the Day</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://gospelcentric.org/2011/08/05/gospel-centric-quote-of-the-day-16/"&gt;Gospel Centric Quote of the Day&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;h2&gt;On what this generation is looking for that has been missing in church:&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="padding-left:30px"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Transcendence.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; My generation was raised on a religion of moral control. Do this. Don’t  do that. And a lot of self-help religion. Feel better. Get out of debt.  Six ways to overcome your fears. Seven ways not to lust. Ultimately  that message didn’t work. It was empty. There was no transcendence. The  omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful God of the universe wasn’t the  focus. I think that’s why we are seeing the resurgence of Reformed  theology.- Matt Chandler&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;What the church needs to be reminded of today:&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="padding-left:30px"&gt;The ultimate gift of the Gospel is NOT the new heavens and new earth,  the ultimate good of the Gospel is NOT the redeemed body, the ultimate  good of the Gospel is NOT forgiveness of sins, NOT redemption, NOT  propitiation, NOT justification…these are all means!! &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The ultimate  good of the Gospel is God Himself beheld in the Glory of His crucified  and risen Son, enjoyed because of His infinite beauty, treasured because  of His infinite worth, and reflected because we’re being conformed to  the image of his son&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. Christ suffered once, the righteous for the  unrighteous, that He might bring us to God…there is no end after  that…everything before that is means” – John Piper&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="padding-left:30px"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4629986244613760350?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://gospelcentric.org/2011/08/05/gospel-centric-quote-of-the-day-16/' title='Gospel Centric Quote of the Day'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4629986244613760350/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/gospel-centric-quote-of-day.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4629986244613760350'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4629986244613760350'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/08/gospel-centric-quote-of-day.html' title='Gospel Centric Quote of the Day'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6300680292008760483</id><published>2011-07-23T09:29:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T09:53:35.075-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Expository Preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freedom'/><title type='text'>Obama, Pentagon certify DADT repeal</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mgpcpastor.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/shorter-catechism-wordle.jpg?w=655&amp;amp;h=433" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="132" src="http://mgpcpastor.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/shorter-catechism-wordle.jpg?w=655&amp;amp;h=433" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=35807&amp;amp;ref=BPNews-RSSFeed0722"&gt;Obama, Pentagon certify DADT repeal&lt;/a&gt;: "WASHINGTON (BP)--President Obama and Pentagon leaders announced Friday they have certified the United States military is prepared for open homosexuals to serve in the armed services. The certification by the president, plus new Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Michael Mullen, means only a 60-day waiting period remains before final repeal of a longstanding policy that bars open homosexuals from serving openly in the Armed Forces."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The most concerning thing to me is the freedom to preach the gospel and call people to repent from their sin including homosexuality.   What the US Military is doing may actually be a infringement on the freedom of Religion and attempt to squash open dialogue and thinking in the market place of ideas.  This ideas are expressed in an excellent quote from more than 60 retired&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;chaplains&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;in a letter sent to Obama and then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;... repeal would marginalize "deeply held" religious beliefs of military personnel and present a conflict when some chaplains, while preaching, "present religious teachings that identify homosexual behavior as immoral." They warned changing the policy could influence chaplains not only in what they could preach but in what they could say in a counseling session. A repeal, the letter further said, would harm morale because it would be casting "the sincerely held religious beliefs of many chaplains and Service members as rank bigotry comparable to racism."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/repent_america.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/repent_america.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I pray that truth is not the&amp;nbsp;causality&amp;nbsp;in this action by the White House, and that a continue free exchange of ideas can genuinely be maintained without censorship or false name calling when people cannot or will not argue their positions. &amp;nbsp;We all should love all sinners in our ministries, but we should never excuse sin in&amp;nbsp;others&amp;nbsp;or in our own lives in proclaiming the Word of God. &amp;nbsp; Eternity is at stake in our preaching of the Gospel of Christ, and heaven and hell (eternal punishment) are realities that all men and women need to hear about that are the result of either the Grace of God alone (for&amp;nbsp;entrance&amp;nbsp;into Heaven) or the sinful rebellion of men and women (with the just punishment of an eternal Hell). &amp;nbsp;I pray that the Christian&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;chaplains&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;will continue preaching and counsel military personnel in a Biblical manner about the Gospel of good news of justification before God and repentance from sin (and yes repentance from the sin of homosexuality) out of a genuine love for all peoples regardless of the cost to themselves. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6300680292008760483?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=35807&amp;ref=BPNews-RSSFeed0722' title='Obama, Pentagon certify DADT repeal'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6300680292008760483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-pentagon-certify-dadt-repeal.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6300680292008760483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6300680292008760483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-pentagon-certify-dadt-repeal.html' title='Obama, Pentagon certify DADT repeal'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4263835170185479792</id><published>2011-07-22T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-22T09:00:18.717-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible study'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hermeneutics'/><title type='text'>How to Study the Bible</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IfEMzcQFM4&amp;amp;hd=1&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="295" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7IfEMzcQFM4?fs=1" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4263835170185479792?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4263835170185479792/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-study-bible.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4263835170185479792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4263835170185479792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-study-bible.html' title='How to Study the Bible'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/7IfEMzcQFM4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4943767779209928024</id><published>2011-07-21T16:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-21T16:25:07.583-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Platt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SBC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>David Platt &amp; John Piper SBC 2011 Annual Meeting</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://vimeo.com/26530321&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/26530321"&gt;David Platt &amp;amp; John Piper SBC 2011 Annual Meeting&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/user5675436"&gt;Rodica&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;www.rodiagnusdei.wordpress.com&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;materialism of our hearts&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4943767779209928024?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4943767779209928024/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/david-platt-john-piper-sbc-2011-annual.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4943767779209928024'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4943767779209928024'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/david-platt-john-piper-sbc-2011-annual.html' title='David Platt &amp; John Piper SBC 2011 Annual Meeting'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7923100481843416029</id><published>2011-07-11T17:31:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-11T17:32:09.339-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christ-Centered'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worship'/><title type='text'>Christ Has Conquered All - Gospel Centered Worship</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;http://youtu.be/WXb97Zd7UmM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="295" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WXb97Zd7UmM?fs=1" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7923100481843416029?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7923100481843416029/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/christ-has-conquered-all-gospel.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7923100481843416029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7923100481843416029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/christ-has-conquered-all-gospel.html' title='Christ Has Conquered All - Gospel Centered Worship'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/WXb97Zd7UmM/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5052471783943142426</id><published>2011-07-09T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-12T12:49:13.748-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Biblical Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doctrine'/><title type='text'>Good Biblical dialogue</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Many dialogues today are very immature from my perspective. &amp;nbsp;I love it when believers can talk about Scripture and their beliefs in a winsome and humble way in an effort to learn from each other and not just talking past each other. &amp;nbsp;I love it when other brothers and sisters in Christ can dialog in a agreeable way over their different&amp;nbsp;perspectives&amp;nbsp;in an effort to learn and grow to know Christ more fully.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://vimeo.com/24828722&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/24828722?color=ffffff" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/24828722"&gt;Chandler, Horton, Keller on How to Disagree&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/gospelcoalition"&gt;The Gospel Coalition&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;The terms of theological have changed rapidly and dramatically with the spread of the internet. So how ought Christians to disagree with one another and with other theological opponents?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this video: Matt Chandler, Michael Horton, Tim Keller&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Permalink: http://thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/chandler_horton_keller_on_how_to_disagree&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5052471783943142426?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5052471783943142426/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/good-biblical-dialogue.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5052471783943142426'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5052471783943142426'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/good-biblical-dialogue.html' title='Good Biblical dialogue'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>Brea, CA, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>33.9166805 -117.90006040000003</georss:point><georss:box>33.8958675 -117.97561690000003 33.937493499999995 -117.82450390000002</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3121775330114371133</id><published>2011-07-08T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-12T13:11:06.312-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pastoral Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><title type='text'>Questions from a Ministry Student i received</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The following&amp;nbsp;Questions&amp;nbsp;are from a interview I did with a student at Golden Gate&amp;nbsp;Baptist&amp;nbsp;Theological Seminary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;1)What is the most important thing for a pastor to know?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Genuinely Knowing Christ (not a false convert) and that God is the goal of the Gospel (not life enhancements). Thus pastor's ministry must be based on expositional preaching of the Word and Gospel (Eph. 4:1-4. One could say the same thing by stating&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;“please or love God first, not men”&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in all you do. (Hebrews 11:6, Revelation 2:4-6)).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;2)What has kept you going when things are going hard in the ministry?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Knowing that God has called me to be a disciplemaking pastor. There is nothing else I can do in life. Also the purse joy of having a vision to fulfill the Great Commission. There is no greater think to live and die for than what is going to last for ever (God, the Word of God and the souls of men). To the degree you don't have an eternal perspective like that, you will tend to quit ministry. (Colossians 2:23-29)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;3)What have you found most helpful to know Christ more?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;The pure joy of knowing God through Christ is best&amp;nbsp;enhanced&amp;nbsp;by being filled with God's Word (and Spirit) (reading, memorizing, praying), and proclaiming His Gospel (evangelism/preaching/teaching) as a way of life. &amp;nbsp;How can a Christian live in a world of sin and be continually happy without pursuing and proclaiming Christ, their Lord? &amp;nbsp;If I don't&amp;nbsp;pursue&amp;nbsp;and proclaim the Lordship of Christ, I would just exist to amas stuff and things and then die. &amp;nbsp;Life would be meaningless. &amp;nbsp;My ultimate pursuit of Christ comes through pursuing a Biblical theology. You cannot say you love God and live for God without having right belief or loving the truth &amp;nbsp;(Psalm 27:1-4), and right belief comes through emercing oneself in the Word of God. &amp;nbsp; Proclaiming (Evangelism/teaching)&amp;nbsp;and memorizing Scripture are some of the most profitable disciplines that create a love for Christ in knowing Him better. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;4) Is evangelism or discipleship most important in building a church?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Yes. You cannot separate them. Evangelism is part of the subset of Discipleship (or I rather call it&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Disciplemaking&lt;/i&gt;) and the call in Evangelism to salvation is a call to be a disciple of Christ. &amp;nbsp;The stewardship of the Gospel in disciplemaking must be multiplied through evangelism as well as training. &amp;nbsp;Evangelism with out Discipleship makes spiritual welfare babies - who are immature and will not reproductive. &amp;nbsp;Discipleship without evangelism results in spiritual still-born babies - who are unregenerate and cannot reproduce. &amp;nbsp;In the end everything the church does is discipleship (or disciplemaking) because they all serve the Great Commission and since all Christians are disciples. Second, it is not the job of the pastor to build the church, that is God's responsibility. &amp;nbsp;It is the calling of a pastor to proclaim the word in whatever context he can – church gatherings, worship services, bible studies, street preaching, visitation, one on one disciplining relationships, Sunday School, small groups, etc., and leave the result with God - as God's means of building His Church. &amp;nbsp;In other words Evangelism, teaching, discipling, and preaching always work when they are used faithfully, because God will not let his word come back to Him void. &amp;nbsp;Isaiah 55:11 says,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #001320; line-height: 21px;"&gt;so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Both Evangelism and Discipleship (Disciplemaking) are successful because God is working in this world and in the lives of&amp;nbsp;believers. &amp;nbsp;Even as trust God's word in Jonah 2:9, which says that &lt;i&gt;“Salvation belongs to the Lord,”&lt;/i&gt; we must also take our responsibility to initiate Evangelism and Discipleship as a way of life. &amp;nbsp;We must take serious Paul's conclusion in Romans 10:14:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #001320; line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;We cannot fail in this endever because God is the resource. &amp;nbsp;The only way to fail in evangelism/disciplemaking is to fail to evangelize/disciple. &amp;nbsp;The church produces disciples not widgets. And god uses means such as pastors and leaders and ordinary people to engage in gospeling the word into the lives of people who will reproduce themselves in others. (Ephesians 4:15-16). &amp;nbsp;Evangelism and Disciplemaking is a lifestyle that all Christians must develop as a way of life. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;5)How do you find good staff and or good leaders?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The best way is to raise them up within the congregation. You have to look for men who have persevered in trials, exhibited patience with people, shown a passion for God and his glory, been commited to the centrality of the Gospel, loved proclaiming God's word, deep convictions about their biblical theology, and involved in ministry to people, and faithful in what is asked to do. They need to be observed as mature disciples that meeting the character traits of an of an elder (&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;I look for people who are already feeding God’s sheep God’s word (Jn. 21:15-17), guiding the sheep (1 Tim. 4:16; 1 Pet. 5:3, Heb. 13:7), and protecting the sheep from attackers (Acts 20:27-29; 2 Tim. 4:3-4; Tit. 1:9), while protecting both themselves and the church through the wisdom (Prov. 11:14; 24:6).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;If you must go outside the local church where you serve, then the best way would be to develop a disciplemaking relationship with a person that you want on your team first in order to see if he is faithful in what you ask him to do. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Luke 22:26. &amp;nbsp;If you call staff&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;members&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;from outside the church, you want to see that they are evaluated based on character and then giftedness in that order. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;You must make sure that your staff affirm (or are not contrary or in&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;aggressive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;conflict with) your essential beliefs and philosophy of ministry. &amp;nbsp;If there is not some purity at the top leadership level of the church in theology and philosophy of ministry, the church will experience unneeded conflict and separation. The higher the position in ministry leadership in the church that a person holds, the higher standards of theological and philosophical unity is required. &amp;nbsp;This doesn't mean that you have to be uniformed in everything, but that the top leaders must willing to walk with each other in a single direction as they continue to grow in their&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;relationship&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;with God through Christ. &amp;nbsp;I would say that there needs to be a humble orthodoxy that creates a warmth in the leadership community of the church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;6)What do you find that brings you most Joy in your Pastor-ship?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;After knowing Christ it is People. Being with people and teaching people and discipling people and multiplying people or disciples of Christ. &amp;nbsp;If people who you are to disciple don't bring you joy then get out of the pastorate. (John 13:34-35)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;7)Any finale thoughts you would like to add?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A pastor must be a disciple himself or he will not reproduce himself in others through Christ. Thus he must protect his time alone with God and with his family. In doing this we will watch over his life and doctrine (2 Tim. 4:16).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Evangelism is necessary but multiplication through disciplemaking is the command in Matthew 28:19-20. &amp;nbsp;Pastors are to to work of an evangelist in context of making and multiplying disciples. (2 Timothy 2:1-2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Don't be driven by a single ministry model or fad (whether it is purpose driven, emergent driven, social driven, method driven, program driven, relationship driven, etc), but keep displaying the greatness, goodness, and supremacy of God in your proclamation of the Gospel through exposition of Scripture. &amp;nbsp;Always be willing to change your methods and adapt your philosophy of ministry in order to obey the commands of S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;cripture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the specific context of your ministry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Remember that God is the author of Salvation and not man. &amp;nbsp;So ministry is not about blasting off the right technique(s), but being faithful to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;aggressively&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;proclaim the Gospel through the God given means of His Word. Don't buy into the pragmatism that is destroying much of American Christianity today. (Hebrews 12:2). &amp;nbsp;Have faith that God is working in his creation and in the men and&amp;nbsp;women you are evangelizing and discipling. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3121775330114371133?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3121775330114371133/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-ministry-student-i.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3121775330114371133'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3121775330114371133'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-ministry-student-i.html' title='Questions from a Ministry Student i received'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1912910485309063481</id><published>2011-07-07T20:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-07T20:41:03.043-04:00</updated><title type='text'>What is your church measuring? What does that say about your mission?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;I have always said that what you measure drives your behavior.  I have found more conformation fo this in an article from &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="entry-source-title-parent"&gt; &lt;a class="entry-source-title" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fvanguardchurch.blogspot.com%2Ffeeds%2Fposts%2Fdefault" style="text-decoration: none; "&gt;Vanguard Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="entry-author-parent"&gt;by &lt;span class="entry-author-name"&gt;Bob Robinson.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="entry-author-parent"&gt;&lt;span class="entry-author-name"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;He says: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://vanguardchurch.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-is-your-church-measuring-what-does.html"&gt;What is your church measuring? What does that say about your mission?&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/-i25w5zpW5uo/ThYUfR7sINI/AAAAAAAAB9E/D3sev20hN3s/s1600-h/how-do-you-measure-success%25255B9%25255D.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="border-bottom:0px;border-left:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;display:inline;float:right;border-top:0px;border-right:0px;padding-top:0px" title="how-do-you-measure-success" border="0" alt="how-do-you-measure-success" align="right" src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/-rUz_Ly21jq0/ThYUf8OzyMI/AAAAAAAAB9I/JfZYIi8aRN4/how-do-you-measure-success_thumb%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800" width="300" height="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Edgar Schein, Professor of Management at MIT, says that whatever an organization measures becomes its de facto culture.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Churches and ministry organizations write mission statements that are great, but they are only wishful thinking if they have put in place mechanisms to measure their success that are contrary to those lofty mission statements. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;For instance,a random mission statement I grabbed from a church on the internet reads,&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span &gt;“Our church seeks to make disciples for our Lord Jesus Christ through Christ-centered worship, Bible-centered spiritual growth, and evangelistic service.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Okay. That sounds pretty good to me.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;How do you measure that? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Here is most pastors’ default measuring tool: Sunday Morning Attendance. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;However, if attendance is our primary measuring tool, our mission should actually be changed to this:&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span &gt;“Our church seeks to get as many people to commit to attending on Sunday mornings as possible.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Period.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Is that a good mission statement? How does that align with God’s mission in the world?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vanguardchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/mission-of-god-and-missional-church.html"&gt;As I’ve said before&lt;/a&gt;, The mission God has sent us on is not to attract people into the church. No, the goal is to send people &lt;em&gt;into the culture&lt;/em&gt; as incarnational “little versions of Jesus” invading every institution and sphere as God’s instrument for bringing all things under the Lordship of Christ and His Kingdom.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;How do you measure &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;that?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1912910485309063481?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://vanguardchurch.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-is-your-church-measuring-what-does.html' title='What is your church measuring? What does that say about your mission?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1912910485309063481/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-is-your-church-measuring-what-does.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1912910485309063481'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/1912910485309063481'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-is-your-church-measuring-what-does.html' title='What is your church measuring? What does that say about your mission?'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://lh5.ggpht.com/-rUz_Ly21jq0/ThYUf8OzyMI/AAAAAAAAB9I/JfZYIi8aRN4/s72-c/how-do-you-measure-success_thumb%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-185097077812872020</id><published>2011-07-07T15:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-07T15:08:26.086-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A church as a Teaching Hospital</title><content type='html'>Here is a great post on how we should view a church if we are going to multiply or plant other churches called: &lt;a href="http://www.brandonacox.com/planting/planting-church-plant-teaching-hospital/"&gt;Planting a Church? Plant a Teaching Hospital&lt;/a&gt; by Brandon Cox.  See if this kind of multiplication resonates with you.&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="float:right;padding:4px;margin:0 0 2px 7px" src="http://www.brandonacox.com/wp-content/uploads/hospital.jpg" alt="Teaching Hospital" title="Teaching Hospital" width="365" height="209" /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Brandon Cox writes: &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That phrase – “teaching hospital” – jumped out at me during a recent conversation with Geoff Surratt, Pastor of Church Planting at Saddleback Church. As we discussed the vision of &lt;a href="http://gracehillschurch.com/"&gt;Grace Hills Church&lt;/a&gt; over lunch, Geoff helped me put words to the burden I kept feeling to plant more than a church – to plant a multiplying movement of reproducing churches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe in church planting. I believe that the local church is supposed to multiply itself, birthing daughter churches, and that this is not only biblically mandated, but a highly practical way to expand the kingdom of God in our culture. America has seen well over 1,000 new megachurches spring up the last decade, and our actual transforming impact upon America is often difficult to spot. We need more churches. Why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;People are going to hell without Jesus, and the &lt;em&gt;percentage&lt;/em&gt; of our population without a relationship with Christ is on the increase.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Many existing churches are dying, and birthing new babies is usually easier than raising the dead.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;God has ordained the local church as His primary vehicle of spiritual and social change in the world.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;New churches reach more people, faster. It takes 89 members of an established church (10 years or older) to baptize one new believer in a year. It takes only three members of a new church (5 years or younger) to do the same.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;The glory of God has yet to be extended to every people group, and almost no community in America can accurately be described as &lt;em&gt;reached&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;God is calling church planters, and blessing church planting. We need to go where God is working.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;God didn’t save me so that I could be saved and go straight to heaven. He wants me to reproduce by telling others about Jesus and making disciples. Churches need to do the same. God has promised that “the gates of hell will not prevail against the church” but this great promise wasn’t intended to apply to every single local church or else the seven churches of Asia would still be thriving today. But because churches have life cycles (like people, organizations, and everything else on planet earth), we need more than a single church plant and more than a temporary church planting movement. We need a continuous flow of new churches coming into the world if we will ever catch up with the population and culture around us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So instead of planting a church, we’re planting a &lt;em&gt;teaching hospital&lt;/em&gt; called Grace Hills Church. It will be a laboratory where leaders will learn what works and what doesn’t in leadership. And it will be a launching pad for other teaching hospitals throughout our region. How will that look? To some degree, time will tell. But here are some things we’re pretty intent on seeing…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;A Teaching Hospital Is An Atmosphere for Learning&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; "&gt;Learning requires listening, experimenting, researching, collaboration, trial and error. Learning requires that we don’t know it all. Whenever a church “masters” its methodology and begins to teach others, it runs the risk of failing to continue to grow and adapt. We want to remain fluid and flexible so that we can be learning continually.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2&gt;A Teaching Hospital Is Patient With Beginners&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; "&gt;We aren’t going to wait until people look “churchy” to re-invest people into the mission of God in the world. Instead we will be patient, realizing that everyone is at a different place of growth, but all are called to serve. Teaching hospitals have to have some experts, but if they only recruit experts, they’re already in danger of extinction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;A Teaching Hospital Allows Hands-on, In-the-trenches Practice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve been in hospital rooms enough to hear patients answer this question: &lt;em&gt;Would you be open to students being involved in your surgical procedure?&lt;/em&gt; Most people answer “yes” but if you allow it, the question can really bother you. A student? Giving me an IV? Taking a knife to me? But the Scriptures are clear that you don’t become an expert by &lt;em&gt;hearing&lt;/em&gt; but by &lt;em&gt;doing&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we recruit interns, staff members, and volunteer leaders, we will seek to empower and free those individuals to make decisions and serve hands-on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2&gt;A Teaching Hospital Never Loses Sight of the Primary Goal – Healing People&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; "&gt;Though we are adamant that we will be a reproducing church, we will keep the emphasis on &lt;em&gt;life transformation&lt;/em&gt;. If we aren’t seeing lives changed, we don’t really want to reproduce ourselves. In other words, in a teaching hospital, patient care can’t be compromised under the guise of an educational opportunity. While we teach, while we mentor, and while we reproduce ourselves, the bigger goal remains to see lives transformed and disciples produced. If we’re healthy, reproduction shouldn’t be a problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m not an expert on church planting, but I plan on becoming one. &lt;em&gt;Not&lt;/em&gt; doing so isn’t an option. The vision of filling northwest Arkansas with the glory of God and extending the gospel to the uttermost parts of the earth is far too compelling to allow us to settle. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Every church should be involved in a movement of church multiplication. Every church needs to be a teaching hospital for the sake of the healing of the nations. Get involved. Not sure where to start? Why not &lt;a href="http://brandonacox.com/needs"&gt;right here, right now&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-185097077812872020?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/185097077812872020/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/church-as-teaching-hospital.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/185097077812872020'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/185097077812872020'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/07/church-as-teaching-hospital.html' title='A church as a Teaching Hospital'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7131619093800520023</id><published>2011-05-28T15:32:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-10T23:21:54.713-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Interview'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doctine of Grace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rick Warren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doctrine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>Theological Conversations</title><content type='html'>On May 1, respected author and speaker John Piper sat down with Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church. Piper quizzed Warren on the doctrine surrounding his book, “Purpose Driven Life.” Piper presents Warren with direct and relevant questions about his influences, why he wrote the book, and how he defends the declarations he makes. Watch as Piper and Pastor Rick discuss topics such as the glory of God, whether negative life circumstances are caused by God, and more. This informative and inspiring interview gives deeper insight in to the author and pastor.http://blog.pastors.com/piperinterview/&lt;script src="http://saddleback.com/mc/js/embed.js?d=saddleback.com;m=337DB" type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;noscript&gt;Embedded media from &amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://saddleback.com/mc/m/337DB"&amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;Saddleback Media Center&amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&lt;/noscript&gt;http://bit.ly/jsZBxf&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7131619093800520023?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7131619093800520023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/n-may-1-respected-author-and-speaker.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7131619093800520023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7131619093800520023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/n-may-1-respected-author-and-speaker.html' title='Theological Conversations'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7037456515232534105</id><published>2011-05-11T12:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-11T12:00:50.829-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Four reasons you may be missing deadlines and how to fix these problems | Unclutterer</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Here is a good article on managing yourself and getting out from the clutter that we all deal with.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://unclutterer.com/2011/05/03/four-reasons-you-may-be-missing-deadlines-and-how-to-fix-these-problems/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+unclutterer+%28Unclutterer%29"&gt;Four reasons you may be missing deadlines and how to fix these problems | Unclutterer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7037456515232534105?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7037456515232534105/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/four-reasons-you-may-be-missing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7037456515232534105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7037456515232534105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/four-reasons-you-may-be-missing.html' title='Four reasons you may be missing deadlines and how to fix these problems | Unclutterer'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-8400705006483344492</id><published>2011-05-10T14:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T14:27:12.298-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Money'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Capitalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God'/><title type='text'>Neil J. Young: Money, God and Greed: The Tea Party and Capitalism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;A review of  a Book that I have started to read and am enjoying on how and why Biblical Christian Theology influences economic philosophy toward Capitalism: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neil-j-young/money-god-and-greed_b_857466.html"&gt;Neil J. Young: Money, God and Greed: The Tea Party and Capitalism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-8400705006483344492?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neil-j-young/money-god-and-greed_b_857466.html' title='Neil J. Young: Money, God and Greed: The Tea Party and Capitalism'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/8400705006483344492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/neil-j-young-money-god-and-greed-tea.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8400705006483344492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8400705006483344492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/neil-j-young-money-god-and-greed-tea.html' title='Neil J. Young: Money, God and Greed: The Tea Party and Capitalism'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6748929533099581775</id><published>2011-05-10T14:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T14:25:17.791-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous Preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Extemporaneous'/><title type='text'>Preaching Without a Net: Delivering Sermons without Notes by Bruce Salmon -SermonCentral.com</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Here is a great illustraton of a pastor who is working out how to preach without notes:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sermoncentral.com/pastors-preaching-articles/bruce-salmon-preaching-without-a-net-delivering-sermons-without-notes-768.asp"&gt;Preaching Without a Net: Delivering Sermons without Notes by Bruce Salmon -SermonCentral.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hardest part of learning extemporaneous preaching or preaching without notes is doing it the first time.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6748929533099581775?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.sermoncentral.com/pastors-preaching-articles/bruce-salmon-preaching-without-a-net-delivering-sermons-without-notes-768.asp' title='Preaching Without a Net: Delivering Sermons without Notes by Bruce Salmon -SermonCentral.com'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6748929533099581775/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/preaching-without-net-delivering.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6748929533099581775'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/6748929533099581775'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/preaching-without-net-delivering.html' title='Preaching Without a Net: Delivering Sermons without Notes by Bruce Salmon -SermonCentral.com'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-553372664500629697</id><published>2011-05-09T13:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T14:30:01.591-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Allen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Interview'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Getting Things Done'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='GTD'/><title type='text'>Interview with David Allen</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 22px;"&gt;David Allen talks about the importance of getting stuff off your mind in this interview with Mike Sullivan of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mo.com/david-allen" style="color: #386ea0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"&gt;M.O.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #f1f0ed; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-left-color: rgb(122, 30, 77); border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 2px; color: #333333; font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 30px; margin-right: 30px; margin-top: 1.5em; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 4px; padding-top: 4px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Tms Rmn';"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mike:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;Let me ask you this. How important is it to follow this system exactly as you’ve outlined? I read the book a few years ago. I’ve implemented the system. I’m probably not using it to its fullest. What’s your perspective on that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Tms Rmn';"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Tms Rmn';"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Tms Rmn';"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;Well, you either want nothing on your mind or you want to keep stuff on your mind. If you want nothing on your mind, you absolutely must rigorously download everything that is potentially meaningful, decide the outcome and action steps embedded in those, and park those in some place you trust you’re going to look at, at the right time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://youtu.be/6BRL25SN62I"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;http://youtu.be/6BRL25SN62I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6BRL25SN62I?fs=1" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-553372664500629697?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/553372664500629697/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-david-allen.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/553372664500629697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/553372664500629697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-david-allen.html' title='Interview with David Allen'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/6BRL25SN62I/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4123396866769935942</id><published>2011-05-07T19:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T15:34:20.921-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SBC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cooperation'/><title type='text'>SBC Fault Lines</title><content type='html'>This is one of the first articles where a "win-win" or an "in-Christ" option in settleing&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;"fault lines" within the SBC. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;I have been reading about cooperation and the&amp;nbsp;pursuit&amp;nbsp;of truth for a long time, and it&amp;nbsp;usually&amp;nbsp;seems that people talk past each other instead of with each other realizing that while they may&amp;nbsp;disagree&amp;nbsp;on &amp;nbsp;secondary or&amp;nbsp;tertiary&amp;nbsp;doctrines, we don't need to&amp;nbsp;elevate&amp;nbsp;them to essential doctrines that would cause us to&amp;nbsp;separate over everything.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Nathan Fin wrote a great article on how a church can cooperate:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="article-title" style="color: #812611; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://betweenthetimes.com/2010/01/22/with-whom-can-my-church-cooperate/" rel="bookmark" style="color: #812611; text-decoration: none;"&gt;With Whom Can My Church Cooperate?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;In the Article Dr. Steve Lemke wrote that the SBC landscape includes several points of&amp;nbsp;contention&amp;nbsp;that he has helpfully offered an "in-Christ"&amp;nbsp;solution to instead of&amp;nbsp;advocating&amp;nbsp;an "in-Adam" solution. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=35203"&gt;Baptist Press - SBC DISCUSSION: Will SBC 'fault lines' lead to division or unity? - News with a Christian Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4123396866769935942?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4123396866769935942/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/sbc-fault-lines.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4123396866769935942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4123396866769935942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/sbc-fault-lines.html' title='SBC Fault Lines'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-3435022936816664399</id><published>2011-05-06T19:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-10T23:23:00.618-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Biblical Theology'/><title type='text'>Is God happy that OBL is dead?</title><content type='html'>Good article in looking this from both sides - yes and no:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/is-god-glad-osama-bin-ladens-dead?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DGBlog+%28DG+Blog%29"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Is God Glad Osama Bin Laden's Dead?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-3435022936816664399?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/3435022936816664399/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/is-god-happy-that-ink-is-dead.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3435022936816664399'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/3435022936816664399'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/05/is-god-happy-that-ink-is-dead.html' title='Is God happy that OBL is dead?'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7858774587978860001</id><published>2011-04-12T20:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-12T20:30:04.363-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><title type='text'>Bell’s Hell and the Destiny of Those Who’ve Never Heard of Jesus</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/04/bell%e2%80%99s-hell-and-the-destiny-of-those-who%e2%80%99ve-never-heard-of-jesus/"&gt;Bell’s Hell and the Destiny of Those Who’ve Never Heard of Jesus&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;br /&gt;by Sam Storms @ ParchmentandPen.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a recent interview with Sally Quinn of &lt;em&gt;The Washington Post&lt;/em&gt;, Rob Bell again muddied the waters over the question of the fate of those who’ve never heard about Jesus. In doing so he also greatly misrepresented the evangelical answer to this question. Here are his words:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“If, billions and billions and billions of people, God is going to torture them in hell forever – people who never heard about Jesus are going to suffer in eternal agony because they didn’t believe in the Jesus they never heard of – then at that point we will have far bigger problems than a book from a pastor from Grand Rapids.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bell is responding to evangelicals who purportedly believe that people “are going to suffer in eternal agony because they didn’t believe in the Jesus they never heard of.” Let me say this as clearly as I can: No one will ever suffer for any length of time in hell or anywhere else for not believing in the Jesus they never heard of. Should I say that again or is it enough to ask that you go back and read it again?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bell and others who make this sort of outrageous claim have evidently failed to look closely at &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1%3A18" title="Romans 1:18"&gt;Romans 1:18&lt;/a&gt;ff. Here we read that the wrath of God revealed from heaven is grounded in the persistent repudiation by mankind of the revelation God has made of himself in the created order. In other words, there is a reason for God’s wrath. It is not capricious. God’s wrath has been deliberately and persistently provoked by man’s willful rejection of God as he has revealed himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The revelation is both &lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt; God and &lt;em&gt;about&lt;/em&gt; God. Therefore, in this case if the pupil does not learn it is not because the teacher did not teach. The phrase “evident to them” (v. 19, NASB), is better rendered either in or among them, probably the latter; i.e., God has made himself known among people (and thus, in a manner of speaking, to them, in their minds and hearts) in his works of creation and providence. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Observe Paul’s paradoxical language in v. 20: he refers to God’s invisible attributes (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Tim.+1%3A17" title="1 Tim. 1:17"&gt;1 Tim. 1:17&lt;/a&gt;) as clearly seen (oxymoron). Paul’s point is that the invisible is made visible via creation or nature. Divine wisdom, power, eternity and goodness, for example, are not in themselves visible, but their reality is undeniably affirmed and apprehended by the effects they produce in nature. That there is a God, supreme, eternal, infinite in power, personal, wise, independent, worthy of glory and gratitude, is clearly evident in the creation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How are these truths about God made known and where may we see them? Paul’s answer is, “through what has been made” (v. 20). God has left the indelible mark of his fingerprints all across the vast face of the universe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Theologian Robert Dabney put it this way: “They who have no Bible may still look up to the moon walking in brightness and the stars watching in obedient order; they may see in the joyous sunbeams the smile of God, and in the fruitful shower the manifestation of his bounty; they hear the rending thunder utter his wrath, and the jubilee of the birds sing his praise; the green hills are swelled with his goodness; the trees of the wood rejoice before him with every quiver of their foliage in the summer air.” Herman Bavinck put it succinctly in declaring that “there is not an atom of the universe in which God’s power and divinity are not revealed.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul’s point here in &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1" title="Romans 1"&gt;Romans 1&lt;/a&gt; is that this revelation is &lt;strong&gt;sufficiently clear and inescapable&lt;/strong&gt; that it renders all &lt;strong&gt;without excuse&lt;/strong&gt; (see &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rom.+1%3A20" title="Rom. 1:20"&gt;Rom. 1:20&lt;/a&gt;). Consequently, there is no such thing as “an innocent native in Africa” any more than there is “an innocent pagan in America.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does Paul mean when he says that all humanity is without excuse? “The excuse that is banished,” notes R. C. Sproul, “the excuse every pagan hopes in vain to use, the excuse that is exploded by God’s self-revelation in nature is the pretended, vacuous, dishonest appeal to ignorance. No one will be able to approach the judgment seat of God justly pleading, ‘If only I had known you existed, I would surely have served you.’ That excuse is annihilated. No one can lightly claim ‘insufficient’ evidence for not believing in God” (&lt;em&gt;Classical Apologetics&lt;/em&gt;, 46).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is not a lack of evidence. The problem is the innate, natural, moral antipathy of mankind to God. The problem is not that the evidence is not open to mankind. The problem is that mankind is not open to the evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note well Paul’s words: “For even though they knew God” (v. 21a). Again, “that which is known about God is evident within them” (not hidden, obscure, uncertain, but disclosed, clear, and inescapable). There is no such thing as an honest atheist! All people know God. There is a distinction, of course, between, on the one hand, a cognitive apprehension of God, i.e., knowing that there is a God and that he is worthy of obedience, worship, gratitude, and, on the other, a saving or redemptive knowledge of God. All people experience the former whereas only the redeemed experience the latter. Thus the problem, again, “is not a failure to honor what was not known, but a refusal to honor what was clearly known” (Sproul, 51).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul believed the unbeliever’s knowledge of God was “real” though not “saving”. They have more than an “awareness” of God. They know both that he exists and that he is of a certain moral character and that they themselves are accountable to him. In other words, their knowledge of God brings “subjective” understanding, but not “saving” understanding. The God they truly and “really” know, they hate and refuse to honor. Their response, however, is not borne of ignorance but of willful rebellion and self-centered sinfulness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Paul is equally clear that all persistently suppress this knowledge (see vv. 21-32). He does not say they began in darkness and futility and are slowly but surely groping their way toward the light. Rather, they began with the clear, inescapable light of the knowledge of God and regressed into darkness. More on this below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reference to them as “futile” and “fools” (vv. 21-22) does not mean all pagans are stupid. It is not man’s intelligence that is in view but his disposition. The problem with the unsaved isn’t that he can’t think with his head. The problem is that he refuses to believe with his heart. The unsaved man is a fool not because he is of questionable intelligence. He is a fool because of his immoral refusal to acknowledge and bow to what he knows is true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the response of the human heart to this revelatory activity of God? Paul describes it in vv. 21-23. What he has in mind involves a distortion or deliberate mutation when one substitutes something artificial or counterfeit for that which is genuine. Clearly, then, when man rejects God he does not cease to be religious. Indeed, &lt;strong&gt;he becomes religious in order to reject God&lt;/strong&gt;. He substitutes for God a deity of his own making, often himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leads to three important conclusions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the revelation of God in creation and conscience is sufficient to render all men without excuse, sufficient to lead to their condemnation if they repudiate it, but not sufficient to save. No one will be saved solely because of their acknowledgment of God in nature, but many will be lost because of their refusal of him as revealed there. In other words, &lt;strong&gt;general revelation lacks redemptive content&lt;/strong&gt;. It is epistemically adequate but soteriologically inadequate. It makes known that there is a God who punishes sin but not that he pardons it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, and please note this well, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;the so-called heathen are not condemned for rejecting Jesus, about whom they have heard nothing, but for rejecting the Father, about whom they have heard and seen much&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Whatever about God is included in Paul’s words, “his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature” (&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rom.+1%3A20" title="Rom. 1:20"&gt;Rom. 1:20&lt;/a&gt;), the knowledge of such is universal and inescapable and renders all mankind without an excuse for their unbelief, without an excuse for their failure to honor God, without an excuse for their refusal to thank God, and without an excuse for turning from the one true God to the worship of idols.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Third, general revelation is the essential prerequisite to special revelation. And special revelation is that which redemptively supplements and interprets general revelation. Therefore, if by God’s gracious and sovereign enablement and enlightenment, any unbeliever responds positively to the revelation of God in nature (and conscience), God will take the necessary steps to reach him or her with the good news of Christ whereby they may be saved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we have seen from this brief look at &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+1" title="Romans 1"&gt;Romans 1&lt;/a&gt; is that God has made his existence and attributes known to all mankind in every age: people of every religion in every nation on earth. These people may never hear the name of Jesus. They may never hear the gospel proclaimed. They may never hear of the cross or the resurrection. They may never hold in their hands a Bible in their own language. But they are totally and justly and righteously “without excuse” before God for their failure to honor him as God and their subsequent idolatrous turn to created things as a substitute for the Creator.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They will not be judged for their rejection of Jesus, of whom they have heard nothing. For Rob Bell or anyone else to suggest that we believe people will suffer eternally in hell for not believing in a Jesus of whom they know nothing is a distortion of what we affirm, and worse still is a distortion of what Paul clearly taught. People will be held accountable and judged on the basis of the revelation that God has made of himself to them. And this revelation is unmistakable, unavoidable, and sufficiently pervasive and clear that the failure to respond as well as the turn to idolatry renders them “without excuse.” They will be righteously judged for rejecting the Father, not for rejecting the Son.&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7858774587978860001?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/04/bell%e2%80%99s-hell-and-the-destiny-of-those-who%e2%80%99ve-never-heard-of-jesus/' title='Bell’s Hell and the Destiny of Those Who’ve Never Heard of Jesus'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7858774587978860001/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/bells-hell-and-destiny-of-those-whove.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7858774587978860001'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7858774587978860001'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/bells-hell-and-destiny-of-those-whove.html' title='Bell’s Hell and the Destiny of Those Who’ve Never Heard of Jesus'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-7231331044367412508</id><published>2011-04-11T18:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-11T18:07:02.824-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Promise and Peril of Being ‘Gospel-Centered’ – A Conversation with Mitch Chase</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=article&amp;amp;id=4344:the-promise-and-peril-of-being-gospel-centered--a-conversation-with-mitch-chase&amp;amp;catid=49:people&amp;amp;Itemid=132"&gt;The Promise and Peril of Being ‘Gospel-Centered’ – A Conversation with Mitch Chase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-7231331044367412508?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=4344:the-promise-and-peril-of-being-gospel-centered--a-conversation-with-mitch-chase&amp;catid=49:people&amp;Itemid=132' title='The Promise and Peril of Being ‘Gospel-Centered’ – A Conversation with Mitch Chase'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/7231331044367412508/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/promise-and-peril-of-being-gospel.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7231331044367412508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/7231331044367412508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/promise-and-peril-of-being-gospel.html' title='The Promise and Peril of Being ‘Gospel-Centered’ – A Conversation with Mitch Chase'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5718264943651417187</id><published>2011-04-11T17:42:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-12T19:51:53.687-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><title type='text'>Helping understanding Eschatological Viewpoints</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Millennial_views.svg/400px-Millennial_views.svg.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; 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Lewis'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4827635437344093797</id><published>2011-04-03T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-05T08:52:21.404-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gospel'/><title type='text'>G.O.S.P.E.L.</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/20960385?byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;amp;color=ffffff" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/20960385"&gt;G.O.S.P.E.L.&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/humblebeast"&gt;Humble Beast Records&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Presented by our good friends at www.Dare2Share.org.&lt;br /&gt;You can purchase/download at https://www.dare2share.org/store/content/life-6-words-gospel-0&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Download Propaganda's New Album&lt;br /&gt;"Art Ambidextrous" for FREE at&lt;br /&gt;http://humblebeast.com/downloads/&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4827635437344093797?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4827635437344093797/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/gospel.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4827635437344093797'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4827635437344093797'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/04/gospel.html' title='G.O.S.P.E.L.'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-8302575735570142907</id><published>2011-03-24T18:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-24T18:43:56.779-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Salvation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Annihilationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Exclusivism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pluralism'/><title type='text'>Urgent Recommendation: "Jesus: The Only Way to God" Audio Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://christianaudio.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/J/e/Jesus_The_Only_Way_To_God_large.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://christianaudio.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/J/e/Jesus_The_Only_Way_To_God_large.jpg" width="169" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Description&lt;/b&gt;: If the evangelical church at large was ever too confrontational in its evangelism, those days are gone. In our shrinking, pluralistic world, the belief that Jesus is the only way of salvation is increasingly called arrogant and even hateful. In the face of this criticism, many shrink back from affirming the global necessity of knowing and believing in Jesus. In Jesus, the Only Way to God, John Piper offers a timely plea for the evangelical church to consider what is at stake in surrendering the unique, universal place of Jesus in salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://christianaudio.com/jesus-the-only-way-to-god-john-piper" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-large; line-height: normal;"&gt;Free Audio Book (Till 3/31/2011)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;I am listening to this book right now and it is a great one. &amp;nbsp;Even thought it seems to be simple it is very profound and deep. &amp;nbsp;This book is also timely with the advent of Rob Bells denial of eternal hell in his book "Love wins." &amp;nbsp;Here you will find good exegesis and theology defending the orthodox view of Salvation and eternal hell. &amp;nbsp;It will warm your hear with joy and give you some fuel to proclaim the Gospel with your&amp;nbsp;universalist&amp;nbsp;friends. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;One readers summary:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“This book deals with one basic question... is Jesus the only way to salvation? Though this is a simple question it has many implications and the question itself can be broken up into three questions.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;1) Will anyone experience eternal, conscience, torment under God’s wrath.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;Is there such a thing as Hell? Is eternal punishment at stake in the evangelization of the world? Is Jesus the only way to escape from an eternal conscience torment of Hell? Will anyone be eternally cut off from Christ and experience eternal, conscience torment under the wrath of God?&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;This first question has to address such issues as Universalism and Annihilationism.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;2.) Is the work of Christ necessary for salvation or are there other basis?&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;This deals with the issue of whether all religions are a journey to God and there is not just one way. It even deals with a Wider-Mercy and Inclusivism type view that would say a Buddist is saved by Jesus even though they may never hear His name or gospel.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;3) Is conscience faith in Christ necessary for salvation?&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;A negative response to any of these questions diminishes mission urgency.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;In summation John Piper argues that since there is a eternal Hell (ch 2) and the death and resurrection of Christ are essential for rescue from Hell (ch 3) and people need to hear this good news and believe it in order to be rescued (ch 4-7) and none are saved by any other means than hearing and believing in Jesus, then we should obey the Great Commission and spread the good news despite it being rejected and unpopular in our culture.&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;I'd recommend this book to anyone struggling with these basic, essential Christian truths, or someone who just needs a reminder and encouragement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-8302575735570142907?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/8302575735570142907/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/urgent-recommendation-jesus-only-way-to.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8302575735570142907'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8302575735570142907'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/urgent-recommendation-jesus-only-way-to.html' title='Urgent Recommendation: &quot;Jesus: The Only Way to God&quot; Audio Book'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-2230729243242971552</id><published>2011-03-23T12:02:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-23T12:04:43.144-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='application'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible study'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theology'/><title type='text'>Application of an Optical Illusion</title><content type='html'>Over at Calvinistic Cartoons that put this up and asked for a way to apply this optical illusion (&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Believe it or not, even though it appears to be&amp;nbsp;wobbly&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;every line is perfectly parallel)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;to a bible study or to a theological issue. &amp;nbsp;I want to know the same thing. &amp;nbsp;How would you use this to teach a theological lesson or begin a Bible study?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Z4W2zfWq12M/TSazAo8XnzI/AAAAAAAAD5Y/wbpfnqGyB-k/s400/Perfectly+Parallel.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-2230729243242971552?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/2230729243242971552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/application-of-optical-illusion.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2230729243242971552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/2230729243242971552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/application-of-optical-illusion.html' title='Application of an Optical Illusion'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Z4W2zfWq12M/TSazAo8XnzI/AAAAAAAAD5Y/wbpfnqGyB-k/s72-c/Perfectly+Parallel.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-8450047339682214132</id><published>2011-03-22T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-23T12:55:07.494-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Substitutionary Atonement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atonement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Actual Atonement'/><title type='text'>Atonement Articles</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, helvetica;"&gt;Here are some articles to read that I promised I would give to my Theology Class. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, helvetica;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.swordandtrowel.org/articles/nature_of_the_atonement.pdf"&gt;The Nature of the Atonement&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Why And For Whom Did Christ Die?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, helvetica;"&gt;by&amp;nbsp;Phil Johnson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, helvetica;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/carsonatonement.html"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Love of God and the Intent of the Atonement&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;by&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 19px;"&gt;D. A. Carson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 19px;"&gt;research professor of New Testament at&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="style5" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/atonementmorris2.html"&gt;Theories of the Atonement&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;by Leon Moris&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Doctrine of Atonement by John G. 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vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;The Doctrine of&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="text_highlight" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;Atonement&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Part 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #827c71; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index015.htm" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb(204, 51, 51) !important; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;The Doctrine of&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="text_highlight" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;Atonement&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 19px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #827c71; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index016.htm" style="background-attachment: initial; 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border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb(204, 51, 51) !important; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"&gt;Limited&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="text_highlight" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;Atonement&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;- An Editorial&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-8450047339682214132?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/8450047339682214132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/atonement-articles.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8450047339682214132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8450047339682214132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/atonement-articles.html' title='Atonement Articles'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5902269084861469713</id><published>2011-03-20T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-23T14:11:56.546-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Spirit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='OT believers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Temple'/><title type='text'>OT Believers and their relationship with the Holy Spirit</title><content type='html'>Here are the articles about OT Believers and their&amp;nbsp;relationship&amp;nbsp;with the Holy Spirit that I promised to give you. &amp;nbsp;The first article by Dr. Jim Hamilton is the best in my opinion. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/papers/ets/2003/Hamilton/Hamilton.pdf"&gt;Were OT Beleivers Indwelt by the Holy Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;by Dr. Jim Hamilton.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;His Conclusion&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Were old covenant believers indwelt by the Holy Spirit? No. They did not need to be. &amp;nbsp;God dwelt in the temple. He was thereby with them. How did old covenant believers&amp;nbsp;become and remain faithful? They became faithful by the regenerating work of the Holy&amp;nbsp;Spirit, which in the OT is described more as ‘circumcision of the heart’ (cf. Jer. 9:25) than&amp;nbsp;as ‘new birth from above’ (cf. John 3:3). They remained faithful not by the Spirit&amp;nbsp;dwelling in them, but by the Spirit dwelling in the temple (Ps. 73:17), where they longed&amp;nbsp;to be (Ps. 116:18–19). Further, the Spirit was active through Israel’s prophets (1 Pet.&amp;nbsp;1:11). As the prophets proclaimed God’s word, the Spirit instructed and admonished&amp;nbsp;God’s people (Neh. 9:20, 30). Under the old covenant, the Spirit gave life and was with&amp;nbsp;the people as he dwelt in the temple. Under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life and&amp;nbsp;dwells in God’s people; they are his temple&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 class="pagetitle" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: impact, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 9px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; width: 512px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #cc0000; font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://drtimwhite.com/2009/02/10/the-old-testament-ministry-of-the-holy-spirit/"&gt;The Old Testament Ministry of the Holy&amp;nbsp;Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt;Dr. Tim White&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt;Here is a guy who graduated from RTS and gives 3 views of this issue. &amp;nbsp;He concludes He concludes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt; "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;I agree with Dr. Stallard’s conclusion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;em style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; font-weight: inherit; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;In light of this and the preceding arguments, it seems best to reject the belief that the Holy Spirit indwelt Old Testament believers&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedanswers.org/answer.asp/category/th/file/99776.qna"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Holy Spirit in the Old and New Testaments &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;by Reformed answers at Third Millennium Ministries&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is the classic Covenantal view that the Holy Spirit did permanently&amp;nbsp;indwell OT Believers. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christinyou.net/pages/otbntc.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Old Testament Believers and New Testament Christians &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A comparison of the spiritual condition of the Old Testament believers and New Testament Christians&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;by&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-variant: small-caps; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: 1px; line-height: 11px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;James A. Fowler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;This guy is neither Covenant Theologian or a Dispensational theologian, but&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;claims&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;to have a Christ-Centered Hermeneutic. &amp;nbsp;But I have questions about his honest scholarship. &amp;nbsp;I have not read him yet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5902269084861469713?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5902269084861469713/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/ot-believers-and-their-relationship.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5902269084861469713'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5902269084861469713'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/ot-believers-and-their-relationship.html' title='OT Believers and their relationship with the Holy Spirit'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-5472724561037228541</id><published>2011-03-19T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-23T14:09:55.359-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Compatiblistic Freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Free Will'/><title type='text'>How do Personal Beings Have Free Will?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The following chart is from&amp;nbsp;Robert J. Dunzweiler which seems to be balanced and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;beneficial&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;in providing a working definition of "free will." &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img height="640" src="http://www.dunzweilerlib.ibri.org/freewill.jpg" style="-webkit-user-select: none;" width="487" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-5472724561037228541?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/5472724561037228541/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-do-personal-beings-have-free-will.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5472724561037228541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/5472724561037228541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-do-personal-beings-have-free-will.html' title='How do Personal Beings Have Free Will?'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-8189992344022495037</id><published>2011-03-18T09:00:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-18T15:27:46.603-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Love'/><title type='text'>Love Wins: A Conversation on Rob Bell’s New Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1 class="res-single-post-title" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; display: block; font-style: inherit; line-height: 24px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 14px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Here is a very important conversation that needs to take place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h1 class="res-single-post-title" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #033477; display: block; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica-NeueBold, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 21px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: 24px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 14px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sbts.edu/resources/event/love-wins-a-conversation-on-rob-bells-new-book/"&gt;Love Wins: A Conversation on Rob Bell’s New Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;embed allowfullscreen="true" allownetworking="all" allowscriptaccess="always" 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title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/love-wins-conversation-on-rob-bells-new.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8189992344022495037'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/8189992344022495037'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/love-wins-conversation-on-rob-bells-new.html' title='Love Wins: A Conversation on Rob Bell’s New Book'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-4508514186486531692</id><published>2011-03-16T20:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-16T20:06:01.059-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciplemaking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='discipleship'/><title type='text'>Wayne Grudem Discipleship Trailer</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8rrQkA10sI"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;What is Discipleship Trailer (Wayne Grudem) Video&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="295" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/O8rrQkA10sI?fs=1" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-4508514186486531692?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/4508514186486531692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/wayne-grudem-discipleship-trailer.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4508514186486531692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/4508514186486531692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/wayne-grudem-discipleship-trailer.html' title='Wayne Grudem Discipleship Trailer'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/O8rrQkA10sI/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-1410121042942098710</id><published>2011-03-16T12:15:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-16T13:08:47.426-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atonement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><title type='text'>MSNBC Host Makes Rob Bell Squirm: "You're Amending The Gospel...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Oh, how good it is to see that that those who were decrying Justin Taylor for His criticism did not really understand the issue at all. &amp;nbsp;You don't have to read everything to make a comment and discern wether a writer is&amp;nbsp;orthodox&amp;nbsp;in his theology or not. &amp;nbsp;One can, should, and do make educated&amp;nbsp;judgments&amp;nbsp;based on previous&amp;nbsp;experience, understandings, evidences. Those that complained about Taylor and Piper need to become much more discerning rather than trying to sound intelligent. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;J&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;ustin Taylor Commented on this video:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: inherit;"&gt;Martin Bashir is a reporter impatient with evasive answers. He even quotes from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2011/03/14/rob-bell-love-wins-review/" style="color: #2244bb;" target="_blank"&gt;Kevin DeYoung’s review&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and asks Rob Bell to respond. Bashir gives his own take on Bell’s book: “You’re creating a Christian message that’s warm, kind, and popular for contemporary culture. . . . What you’ve done is you’re amending the gospel, the Christian message, so that it’s palatable to contemporary people who find, for example, the idea of hell and heaven very difficult to stomach. So here comes Rob Bell, he’s made a Christian gospel for you, and it’s perfectly palatable, it’s much easier to swallow. That’s what you’ve done, haven’t you?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg-qgmJ7nzA"&gt;MSNBC Host Makes Rob Bell Squirm: Your Amending the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Gospel...&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Vg-qgmJ7nzA?fs=1" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;So the question has been raging in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;blog-sphere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-rob-bell-universalist-yes-and-no.html"&gt; Is Rob Bell a&amp;nbsp;universalist?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-rob-bell-universalist-yes-and-no.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;The Sola sisters say:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Well, yes and no. &amp;nbsp;And by that I mean, "Yes," Rob Bell&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;a Universalist, but that "No," he wouldn't call himself that because what he really believes in is a slyer, more "&lt;/span&gt;Christianized&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;" version of Universalism called&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;"Universal Reconciliation."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;I believe that is a great summary and it is good to use the term "universal reconciliation" to describe his position. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/lisa-miller-interviews-rob-bell/"&gt;Lisa Miller interviews Rob Bell.&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;Rob Bell just cannot say anything straight out. &amp;nbsp;It shows how deceptive He is. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With Respect to Rob Bell I would suggest listening to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/watch-out-for-those-who-lead-you-away-from-the-truth#/listen/excerpt"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Watch out for those who lead you away from the truth&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-1410121042942098710?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/1410121042942098710/comments/default' title='Post 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xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Vg-qgmJ7nzA/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-367695557135565205</id><published>2011-03-16T09:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-16T09:30:02.467-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Autofocus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Getting Things Done'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='GTD'/><title type='text'>Autofocus System www.MarkForster.net</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Here is an alternative/complement to the GTD system of self managment:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;watch the video: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF1ngJAyD_s"&gt;Autofocus System Mark Forster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qF1ngJAyD_s?fs=1" width="425"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-367695557135565205?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/367695557135565205/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/autofocus-system-wwwmarkforsternet.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/367695557135565205'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/15020236/posts/default/367695557135565205'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/autofocus-system-wwwmarkforsternet.html' title='Autofocus System www.MarkForster.net'/><author><name>Glenn Leatherman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04100874956762968140</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3250/397/1600/Website%20Picture.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/qF1ngJAyD_s/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15020236.post-6473491076755192411</id><published>2011-03-15T09:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-15T09:21:00.382-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theological Taxonomy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theological Development'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dialog'/><title type='text'>What Do I Owe to the Person Who Differs from Me?</title><content type='html'>this is a very helpful article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.peacemaker.net/site/c.aqKFLTOBIpH/b.1172255/apps/s/content.asp?ct=1245839"&gt;How to Deal with Those who Differ from Us (Rodger Nicole)&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h1 style="color: #989565; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal;"&gt;2 of the best quotes on this occur at the end of the article:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h1 style="color: #989565; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Perhaps the most important consideration for the Christian is to remain aware at all times of the goal to be achieved. It is the consistent perception of this goal that will give a basic orientation to the whole discussion: Are we attempting to win an argument in order to manifest our own superior knowledge and debating ability? Or are we seeking to win another person whom we perceive as enmeshed in error or inadequacy by exposing him or her to the truth and light that God has given to us?...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;A Christian in carrying on discussions with those who differ should not be subject to the psychology of the boxing ring where the contestants are bent upon demolishing one another. Rather "The Lord's servant must not quarrel: instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses..." (2 Timothy 2:24-26).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;see also www.disciplemaking.net&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/15020236-6473491076755192411?l=glennleatherman.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.peacemaker.net/site/c.aqKFLTOBIpH/b.1172255/apps/s/content.asp?ct=1245839' title='What Do I Owe to the Person Who Differs from Me?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/feeds/6473491076755192411/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://glennleatherman.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-do-i-owe-to-person-
